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True or false: this article belongs at Soccer ball with Football (ball) being the ball for playing football; this article is about the ball for playing soccer. 66.245.124.71 23:21, 21 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Somebody saw fit to change almost every instance of the word "football" as a reference to American, Canadian, and Australian Football (the games and the balls) to "rugby". I went back and made the appropriate changes, but I find it irritating that people make large scale changes over political semantics Draganta 19:26, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
ThisMunkey (talk) 14:25, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
User:Dyfsunctional has edited the measurement units into the form Imperial (Metric) with comment "Wikipedia standard units". There is no such standard (see Wikipedia:Measurements Debate). I have re-edited as follows:
I'm a little unsure of why we need the line about the ratio of sizes between a football and a C60 fullerene molecule. Beyond the numerical issues (neither of the two numbers is anything more than an estimation), I don't think it's particularly poingant, interesting or encyclopedic.
See: the Fullerene article for more. That article suggests the shape of the Fullerene was predicted after someone considered the geometry of a football. I'm bored now. 128.16.12.204 (talk) 15:09, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
I have heard that they have changed the shape and pieces the ball is made of. That is it is not made out of pentagonal and hexagonal pieces anymore. Anyone who can contribute to this? (unknown editor)
Depends on the competition. UEFA Champions League currently using 32 Panel Nike, whereas FIFA use Adidas, as stated in the article. Not a Nike spokesman but I came to Wikipedia after reading this article: http://www.footballshirtculture.com/200803301242/balls/nike-total-90-omni-match-ball.html Looks like Nike have enhanced the 32 panel (C60) ball by tweaking the hexagons and pentagons, whilst Adidas' Teamgeist football had 14 customised (i.e. not regular shapes) panels: http://www.physorg.com/news68897964.html These two manufacturers seem to have a different approach to creating a near-perfect sphere.
Both appear to have asymmetric patterns on the surface, which according to the Nike article, assists the players with predicting speed of the ball and trajectory, as well as peripheral visibility of the ball. The materials used are also radically different since the 1970's balls, e.g. nitrogen cushioning in the panels, surface patterns to repel water or make aerial movement more "curvy". 128.16.12.204 (talk) 14:53, 9 March 2009 (UTC) (cba logging in/forgotten password)
News to me. The term has never been applied to Association football exclusively and predates the founding of the Football Association by centuries. How exactly did it diverge? There was never one agreed set of rules that somehow got changed.GordyB 14:02, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
I have removed the claim that the Addidas Teamgeist football produced for the 2006 world cup is "based on a truncated octahedron". The ball is stitched from 14 panels making it topologically equivalent to a truncated octahedron but since each panel is either a wobbly oblong or bizarre three pronged shape (as clearly seen in the included photo of the teamgeist ball) while a truncated octahedron is composed of squares and hexagons then there really isn't much in common with them. Topographical similarity hardly justifies the claim that it is based on it. Kingbenny 20:07, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
I'd like to split this article up so that each ball has its own article. Any objections? Kingturtle (talk) 14:13, 7 December 2007 (UTC) Should have a conjuction page too or a categoryThisMunkey (talk) 14:45, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
For Footballplayer40 (talk) 14:13, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
Why write association when you can write soccer? It is a FIFA standard football suggested is it not?ThisMunkey (talk) 14:30, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
I agree with you there Gordy but the association in particular should stand out and I think it's niether FIFA or association on it's own it's International Football Association Board (IFAB)ThisMunkey (talk) 14:43, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
It actually is refered to as 'association football' on a FIFA document http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/federation/fifa_statutes_0719_en_14479.pdf That is not sides Gordy. Soccer is a name used non football countries. Just because people understand the term doesnt mean it is the new football. ThisMunkey (talk) 14:55, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
Rugby league calls itself football, so does Gaelic football, American football, rugby union, Australian football, various forms of folk football, Candian football etc.GordyB (talk) 14:12, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
Is there actually any difference between the balls used in the two codes of rugby? The measurements sound identical.--MacRusgail (talk) 16:08, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
what is the purpose of the mini soccer balls?′22:16, 4 August 2008 (UTC)75.181.7.33 (talk) What do you use them for?
I think that people really need to get over what a football is. Are you guys idiots or what? at the very beginning of the article it says that a football is one of two balls, used in either American soccer or football (as Americans know it). What's the big deal??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.81.49.51 (talk) 21:51, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
There's an article here http://www.martinfrost.ws/htmlfiles/football_origin.html which suggests the world's oldest soccer ball was found in the oak-pannelled walls of Stirling Castle, not the roof NL:S
FWIW I'm from US and all along have thought the canonical name for the Wikipedia article on the world's most popular sport should be association football. Just getting that out of the way so you don't think I'm rehashing the above. :)
But I just don't understand why this article exists as a fully-formed article, rather than dividing the content out according to the entity being described. My understanding is that WP articles should be about concepts, not words (except obviously when the word is the concept, e.g. Football (word)). So then because various concepts are known by the same word, should it not be disambiguation page helping those looking for info on the association football ball to find what they seek, those looking for an American football ball, etc. etc.? I don't see the point in having all that info about various concepts in one article, and then having separate articles like Association football ball to repeat and expand it. I don't even see one unifying concept behind all the different sorts of "football" balls, just a word, which already has yet another article of its own. Seems like a level of redundancy beyond standard Wikipedia "Main article" protocol. Thoughts? - Cheers, PhilipR (talk) 20:46, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
most pointless article ever, just have a disambiguation page where people can be directed to the football they're looking for. btw there is no such thing as a soccer ball. thats not a political statement its just pedantry, even if you call it soccer you play with a football (weather you call it a footbal or not). ditto every other code, you play rugby with a football (although people just say ball), you play league with a ball not a 'league ball'. aussi rules is played with a football not an 'afl ball'. id imagaine its the same for both forms of gridiron. seriously most pointless article ever. a similar thing should happen to libertarian page but thats another issue. i posted this on the wrong section before appollogies.
I believe that Chip-enabled soccer ball should be merged here. That article doesn't contain any info that wouldn't be out of place here. – PeeJay 07:48, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
Why is the caption on the NFL (American) football noted as a pre-2006" ball? What change was made (if any) in 2006? There is no mention in the article of anything about NFL balls changing in 2006. 68.209.173.58 (talk) 18:28, 12 September 2010 (UTC) y — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.234.51.1 (talk) 16:07, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
In American and Canadian Football Section, it says the main reason why American Football is called "foot" ball is because the ball measures 12 inches (1 foot) in length. Early American Football, at least in college, is played with a spherical ball. Is there any other reason why it should be called football? User016608 (talk) 13:40, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Can we get a proper Sherrin on Wikipedia rather than a soft toy one? --Hoever06 (talk) 05:27, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
Given that we have the separate article association football (ball), do we really need this much detail here? --Khajidha (talk) 20:35, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
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