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This is not checked for accuracy, but simply a result of disambiguation and 'prettification' of the Babelfish translation in the Old Gorani page ( now under talk:Gorani (Kosovo)). Please check and sclarify
Regarding the science of antrapology and genetic studies, speakers of Zazki(Dımılki), Gorani(Hewrami), Kurmanji, Sorani, Luri, kelhuri, Bahtiyari do not differ racially from each other though they differs much from other iranian groups in many aspects. But in the course of time, Kurds, being members of different religions and using different religious books of different languages had some impect on their origional language. And other social, cultural and political expositions made some modifications on their language regionally. Zazaki or Gorani[Hewrami)seem to be the least modiefied remains of old kurdish language spoken by medians and partians and other ansestors of kurds and also closest to ancient sacred language of avesta and scripts of yaresan or alevi beleifs among all other kurdi languages.
As per naming conventions page should be renamed. "Kurdish" is too spesific, "language" is aproporate. There also appears to be a contravercy weather or not Gorani is a Kurdish dialect, this rename would also avoid such an unnecesary pov issue. --Cat out 01:54, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
Wow, these turkish nationalists are sooo lame... Man.. From now on I shall create lots of accounts and start writing lies about the turks, as they have done. Then, perhaps this stupid encyclopedia, shall understad that they are making people more stupid. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.140.193.209 (talk) 17:34, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
Although people have mistakenly used the words Pehlewani and Gorani synonymously, the merging of Pehlewani and Gorani as one would be technically incorrect. Pehlewani is a broad and "mother" branch that encompasses several Indo-Iranian languages or dialects, which includes Gorani. Gorani is one language or dialect, or a series of dialects, belonging to the Pehlewani branch. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 171.70.250.61 (talk) 22:46, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
The term Gorani is used by native Kurds for all Kurdish dialects of southern Kurdistan, known in linguistics as southern Kurdish. However western linguists often mistakenly used (and may still use) Gorani for Haurami. which is a small enclave between central Kurdish (Sorani) and southern Kurdish (Gorani). Ellipi (talk) 13:45, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
@برسام:, kindly let me know why did you revert my edit here? Many scholars think that Gorani is a dialect of Kurdish and some as Hennerbichler recently have put forward the theory of Kurdish Complex that includes Gorani. Please use the talk page before reverting edits. Thanks Pirehelo (talk) 20:46, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
@Pirehelokan:
According to "language classification section" in the article, Gorani belongs to Zaza–Gorani branch of Northwestern Iranian and it is not linguistically related to Kurdish branch Northwestern Iranian languages. Despite some resources and linguistics, It is not considered as a dialect of Kurdish Languages!
You have edited the article so that the content explicitly contradicts the "language classification section"!
برسام (talk) 06:53, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
@برسام: I'm going to report you to ANI for disruptive editing. Removing well-sourced references for the close relationship between the Kurdish continuum and Gorani just because it does not fit your worldview is vandalism. Also, the Izady reference you added yourself also clearly states that Gorani is influenced immensely by Kurdish (but I suppose you ignored that). --Semsurî (talk) 10:35, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
@Semsurî: The meaning of the Gorani has not been mentioned in the resource you introduced. There is nothing in page 127 abut the meaning of Gorani. Resource,page 111 : "Its former literary ascendancy is possibly still reflected by the fact that the term gorani is the common word for "song" in Sorani." This sentence does not show what you mean. برسام (talk) 05:28, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Admin note: You two are in danger of getting blocked for edit warring. I am going to full-protect the article for a couple of days to keep that from happening. Meanwhile you need to discuss the issues here, on this talk page and nowhere else. Make your points clearly, without insulting the other user. Be sure to cite your sources, because sourcing is what ultimately decides what goes in the article. -- MelanieN (talk) 21:02, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
@MelanieN: If they don't intend to explain their edit changes, I will be re-adding removed sourced info. --Semsurî (talk) 11:39, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
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