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"Since Murdoch's death, Bloom has expressed admiration for novelists such as John Banville, Peter Ackroyd, Will Self, and A. S. Byatt." Are there any online links that illustrate Blooms admiration for these writers? They all seem like writers Bloom would like, but have only ever come across him discussing Banville. A reference would be much appreciated, did he talk about them in a televisual/newspaper interview not available online, or in a recent book? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.68.2.80 (talk) 21:18, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
I am surtprised there is no mention of his dismissive attitude to Cam,us in his intro the the book publ in the series Bloom's Modern Critical Views (Chelsea, 1989) "time ... hqas worn The Stranger rather smooth" (1); "The Stranger is bartely able to sustain an aestheticdignity and certainlyis much slighter than we thought it to be" (2); —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.253.4.160 (talk) 16:35, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
As far as novelists Bloom has, in books as recent as his 2000 "How to Read and Why?", often called Philip Roth one of the most important living novelists. He included "Blood Meridian" and "The Crying of Lot 49"-- by Cormac McCarthy and Thomas Pynchon respectively-- in his list of American novels to read; they are also living writers. I don't believe he included a book by Roth in this section, but has stated his admiration for "Sabbath's Theater" and "Operation Shylock" elsewhere. As a final note on living novelists, he expressed admiration of "Gravity's Rainbow" and "Mason and Dixon", both by Pynchon. 75.110.31.87 (talk) 00:04, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
As for poetry, Bloom has expressed the opinion that both John Ashbery and Anne Carson are important living poets. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.110.31.87 (talk) 23:53, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
In Novels and Novelists, a collection of his Modern Critical Views intros for novelists, he praises many of Roth's novels, including The Human Stain, I Married a Communist, American Pastoral, My Life as a Man, Portnoy's Complaint, etc. He says that none of his books are "period pieces", though Letting Go, The Breast, The Facts, Our Gang, and When She Was Good never found him. In his Paris Review interview (Vol. 2 of the collected interviews), he says that Deception is very good. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.31.7.21 (talk) 15:37, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
In "Genius," p. 714, he does indeed name Robinson, along with Pound, Williams, Crane, Frost, Eliot, Stevens, Merrill, Ammons and a few more, as one of the "superb poets" in American literature of the last century. To me it seems more reasonable to name the poets of the century rather than naming those who are "recent", as "recent" will mean something quite different to different people reading the entry at different times. -- Damion
It should be fairly obvious from the names mentioned that 'recent' in this context refers roughly to those appeared in the post-WWII period (Penn got started earlier, but Bloom only regards his later work), which is the period in which the canon appears to be completely unsettled, and the period of Bloom's professional life. The only reasons to include this section at all are that the writers Bloom favors are, for the most part, unknown or barely known to the average person (Ammons, Merrill, McCarthy, Saramago, Geoffrey Hill, etc.), and that some of his choices are unusual or controversial. By contrast, the probably canonicity Eliot, Frost, Pound, Hart Crane, Faulkner, Auden and others who were established before the war is so commonly known that there's no particular signifigance to the fact that Bloom also believes in it. - 66.190.242.110 December 12, 2003
If by "recent" you mean post-WWII, you should state so in the entry; otherwise, how is anyone to know? -- Damion
I clicked on a link to find allegations about Bloom's sexual misconduct with a student. It seems odd to have such a link without any sort of response... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 165.106.221.130 (talk) January 30, 2005
Bloom has also said, at times both in "The Western Canon" and "How to Read and Why" that the poets John Ashbery and Anne Carson are important; and that the novelists Philip Roth, Thomas Pynchon, and Cormac McCarthy (mentioned above) are important. From all I have read of Bloom, which is alot, I realize he is often prone to inconsistencies in list making; or, better yet, his lists are inconsistent from publication to publication. 75.110.31.87 (talk) 00:04, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
Regarding inconsistency, in 'The Western Canon' he said that he was unhappy about including Robert Lowell in his final list, but assumed that because nearly every other critic esteemed him, he (Bloom) must be wrong. In 'Till I End My Song', he said that after rereading Lowell's poems, he realised that the poet was indeed canonical and that he had been mistaken earlier. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.31.32.30 (talk) 11:18, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
This ought to be included: http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/features/n_9932/index4.html
"Although she acknowledged that what she alleged Bloom did was not harassment, either legally or emotionally, she claimed to have harbored this secret for 21 years." -- This is inaccurate. She does not "acknowledge" that it was not harassment "emotionally" -- instead, what she says is that "encroachment" and "transgression" are more accurate than "harassment." In other words, she did not actually say that emotional harassment did not occur. The word "harassment" in the context of "sexual harassment" means something different than "harassment" alone. While "harassment" alone suggests persistence, "sexual harassment," simply means a sexual advance. (See definitions for both at www.dictionary.com.) Thus, "sexual harassment," in the emotional sense, is still accurate. Naomi Wolf simply used alternative words, "encroachment" and "transgression" because they get more to the point, whereas there is more ambiguity based on the differences between "harassment" and "sexual harassment." Laulaulau26 (talk) 18:22, 4 April 2011 (UTC)laulaulau26
Specific allegations from a well-known named source (Naomi Wolf) in major media (New York). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.39.129.124 (talk) 21:46, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
That doesn't change the fact that she accused him of it. --68.90.239.4 (talk) 02:11, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
"Can 35 Million Book Buyers Be Wrong? Yes" was being used as a reference but it gave me a 404 error; I've used a reference that was already in the article which seems to cover the same or similar material. Jokeslayer (talk) 15:08, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
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I'm thinking about removing the "notable works" listed in the box. Probably more than 10 of his works are notable by Wikipedia's standards (see WP:NOTABILITY), which is too many to be included. I think with living writers in general it is best to leave this section of the infobox blank, since it remains to be seen which works will survive most strongly. Gregcaletta (talk) 20:27, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
From this entry:
"Bloom organized what he called "the factory" in New Haven, employed 16 full-time staffers at one stage, as well as scores of freelance graduate students, and at his peak knocked out 15 books a month and three introductions a week."
From http://chronicle.com/article/Harold-Bloom-by-the-Numbers/127211/ (linked from this entry):
"Bloom organized what he called "the factory" in New Haven, employed 16 full-time staffers at one stage, as well as scores of freelance graduate students, and at his peak knocked out 15 books a month and three introductions a week."
Typical.35.24.46.141 (talk) 11:30, 28 June 2012 (UTC)fed_up
Hi,
There is a great deal of extraneous and disorganized material in this article. So I am removing it. To begin, there is no need for any of this text to be in the introduction:
These superfluous paragraphs need to be removed or reduced significantly. I've done the latter:
This section needs concision, which I've begun:
The "Thinking about Influence" and "Influence" sections are vague, poorly written, and need to be shortened.
174.49.172.92 (talk) 14:17, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
I've added three days full protection following a request from FreeKnowledgeCreator on RfPP. The request was for semi-protection but as it seems to be a content dispute about a BLP, I thought full protection might be more appropriate. Let me know if you need an extension, or if it can be lifted early.
To 174.49.172.92, if the text you're changing is long-standing, the best way forward is to gain consensus for your changes before you make them. If there is material in the article that violates our biography of living persons (BLP) policy, that can be removed immediately; you can ask for help at the BLP noticeboard if that is an issue, or if there's an urgent BLP problem, you can find an admin at WP:AN/I. Otherwise, discussion is the way forward, rather than repeatedly reverting. Many thanks, SlimVirgin (talk) 04:06, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi--I've discussed the removed text above. I cut a series of statements that have no place on the page, such as where he went on his honeymoon. Bloom's honeymoon destination could be noteworthy if he met someone who inspired him there or had some revelation that influenced his importance while honeymooning, but he didn't. The honeymoon bit and the rest of it is just fluff. If someone would like to keep something I've taken out -- that's fine, just note why here on the talk page.174.49.172.92 (talk) 04:08, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
Automamet has serially reverted text without explanation of anything on Talk page. This is against wiki policy, WP:3RR. The intro section should not be celebratory. While Bloom may be notable as an "important" critic in popular spheres, that concept is not shared by many contemporary literary scholars. The hagiographic lead-in section is a POV issue.Macroscope7 (talk) 10:15, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
The criticism section. It could be further developed to reflect that Bloom has been unimportant in literary circles for decades.Macroscope7 (talk) 18:40, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
There is nothing about his latest book, the daemon knows. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.11.235.25 (talk) 21:56, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
FreeKnowledgeCreator, re my edit, which you reverted. Perhaps I should explain why present wording galled with me. Present wording is ambiguous 'Bloom has a deep appreciation for Shakespeare' means both that he is a 'big fan of', 'has a considerable admiration for' (the sense I imagine in which he wrote the words). It also (literary appreciation?) means that his 'appreciation' (literary criticism) has intellectual depth to it. That is a statement which I and many would agree with, but should WP be saying it as an objective fact, sourced to Bloom's own writings? Especially as an opening statement, that meaning ascribes a value bordering on 'fan-nish' rather than informing what his ideas are, which is what makes him interesting.
Why not open 'Bloom considers Shakespeare etc' and leave out (or move) his 'deep appreciation', (and, if used, put it into his voice?). I have considerable regard for Bloom, who I always find thought-provoking, even when I don't fully agree with him, or lack the knowledge to form an intelligent response, but I believe he is better served by under-statement and 3rd person evaluation of his worth.
Please 'ping' if replying.Pincrete (talk) 23:25, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
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The 2003 interview cited states that Bloom cannot believe that an "all-knowing," all-powerful God could allow Nazi death camps & schizophrenia.
This sounds like Ronald Laing's account of hearing Martin Buber speak before a Glasgow Jewish men's society in the early 1950s. Buber was going on about Abraham & the Covenant when he stopped, raised his Oxford dictionary-size Bible above his head, slammed it on the lectern, & shouted, "What good is that book to us after the death camps!" BubbleDine (talk) 18:29, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
{{ITN nom}} -Ad Orientem (talk) 06:31, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
The authors use a statistical approach analyzing millions of syllabus and conclude the Western canon is still being widely taught and has prevailed, with some new voices included as well - both sides win. However, the humanities in general are declining in enrollment regardless of what is being taught fewer people are reading. -- GreenC 00:03, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
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