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Hello Owennson. For the Opening date, I recommand to only put the year (not the full date), for the reasons :
I propose to merge High-speed rail by country and List of high-speed rail lines.
The old page High-speed rail by country is now quasi-empty, while its content has been displaced in a new page, Planned_high-speed_rail_by_country, months ago.
Indeed, the High-speed rail by country page has never own the list of high-speed lines, but only some planed high-speed lines, that are now in the appropriate page.
The new page page that has just been created, List of high-speed rail lines, contains what the "High-speed rail by country" should have contained.
I propose to only keep the List of high-speed rail lines, equivalent of the List of high-speed trains, and to copy the first table of High-speed rail by country on top of the List of high-speed rail lines.
--FlyAkwa (talk) 10:43, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
I oppose the redirect. It is a misredirect and has been done out-of-process. The content does not overlap, one title is for the general concept, the other for lines only. See details at Talk:High-speed rail by country#Out-of-process misredirect. Railman2015 (talk) 18:18, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
Why does the article count "upgraded" lines in some countries but not others? bobrayner (talk) 23:43, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
I think many people would like to know which countries are the major producers of high-speed trains. And which firms. Bombardier, Siemens, ThyssenKrupp, CSR Qingdao Sifang, Alstom, Patentes Talgo, Kawasaki, Hitachi, etc. Which countries export the most high-speed trains (in dollar terms)? Thank you. Benefac (talk) 03:55, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
in the chart of high speed tracks per country (in the Overview section), the US is described as having "No dedicated lines" and has a value of 0 km total. Now the chart seems to state high speed track, I don't think those two are interchangeable. If high speed track is defined as track suitable for speeds exceeding 200 km/h and there are US trains exceeding that speed (Acela), it seems obvious that there must be some high speed track within the US. I don't have any sources about the amount of existing high speed track so I can't correct it, but I'd be inclined to just remove the US entry as long as no information has been found. As I understand it, stating a value of 0 isn't just misleading, if my above reasoning is correct, it would be wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Makrom (talk • contribs) 00:46, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
I think the article as it is looks quite messy. In my opinion, it would be better to merge all the lists in one big table, specifying the country and the type of line (dedicated or upgraded). This fragmentation is especially annoying for the Chinese network, with the list splitted for each year. I don't think this makes much sense and it's not consistent with the other countries' lists. --Ita140188 (talk) 13:12, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
Yes, it is a mess. It is called "List of high-speed rail lines" but what does it offer? Yes, several mini-lists. If one would merge into one table, then the name would be correct. The per-type-per-country lists should be merged into dedicated country specific lists or into country articles. 80.134.93.94 (talk) 18:25, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
User:Owennson did not respect the consensus on using "railway line" instead of "rail line" when s/he created List of high-speed rail lines.
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Then User:FlyAkwa in a 30 hour raid did destroy the several years old page High-speed rail by country.
Railman2015 (talk) 17:03, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
2. I think using high speed rail instead of high speed railway here would be more logical.--Owennson (talk) 02:35, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
The line from St. Petersburg to Finland may be 385 km long, but only about 200 km are in Russia. This should be corrected.--Bk1 168 (talk) 14:11, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
The main line between Lisbon and Porto is run by a tilting higher speeded Pendolino train. It reaches 220kms/hour in many sections of track.
I do not see why Portugal is not in the list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.138.91.51 (talk) 06:06, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
Sweden should be mentioned, because they have quite a long netword of highspeed railroad lines for speeds ≥ 200 km/h.--Bk1 168 (talk) 02:41, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
The HSL-Zuid line in the Netherlands is listed as starting in Amsterdam. Although all services run over HSL-Zuid terminate at Amsterdam Centraal, the high-speed line itself does not start until after Schiphol Airport. Is this intentional? Jamy015 (talk) 00:48, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
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It doesn't make much sense. Smaller countires may have a very dense network, but will only show up as yellow on the map. NCLI (talk) 15:18, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
I was compelled to comment following the message left at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Trains. From a quick skim of this page, it seems like a lot of the content doesn't belong here at all. I already removed a section on Hungary that was not sourced and hadn't started construction yet. The Czech Republic also doesn't appear to have any high-speed rail yet (High-speed rail in the Czech Republic) and so this section should possibly be removed too.
I'm confused about the hatnote "Planned high-speed rail in countries without existing high-speed rail lines", which links to Proposed high-speed rail by country. This page contains info on countries such as Japan and the United Kingdom which clearly do indeed have high-speed rail. Could we simplify these two articles by limiting this article (List of high-speed railway lines) to operational high-speed rail and putting all proposed/under construction high speed rail info on Proposed high-speed rail by country?
I find it a little hard to distinguish between railways that are in operation, under construction or only under consideration. Some under consideration are only suggested by lobbyists. One can look at the year, but sometimes an optimistic lobbyist some years ago wrote a year which now has happened or is close. In the article in German Wikipedia there is a coloured column saying if it is in operation, under construction or under consideration. So I suggest to have a column at left with In operation, Under construction or Under consideration.--BIL (talk) 12:04, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
Make the definition clear. Here it is told that high speed tracks above 250kmph for newly built and 200kmph for upgraded track. That means tracks newly built for 200kmph will not be included here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiki841 (talk • contribs) 05:12, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
This article is mainly separating lines between a category "Dedicated high-speed lines" and a category "Upgraded high-speed lines". But this is a wrong categorization, because:
The categorization which should be done is therefore Upgraded vs New (or Newly built), not Upgraded vs Dedicated. Carfois (talk) 21:00, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
Why isn't Brightline in Florida mentioned in this article? It is capable of reaching 125 miles per hour, and does. Norisheep (talk) 04:01, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
With the defination and a standard established, the overview section revamped, and with a standard table format developed for all regional sections, it would be great if someone could lend me a helping hand in updating the rest of the tables in regional section. All we have to do is follow the standard table format used in the Asian section with China, India, Japan, Indonesia. Inclusion of a significant line (formed by multiple small lines) is preferred over multiple small sections. Also remember, only Operational, Under construction and Approved (initial works for construction) sections are to be included. Proposed/Planned sections go to Proposed high-speed rail by country article. Thanks a ton. Footy2000♡; 16:59, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
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