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Certainly these people gives millions of dollars to charity, but I think we should compare it to their net-worths. For example Michael Bloomberg is listed to have donated $300 million. His net-worth is $20 billion according to his wikipedia page. Therefore he only gives 1.5% of his net-worth. I think many middle-class people give much more than 1.5% of their net-worth. Any thoughts on this matter? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ru-G Corp. (talk • contribs) 18:15, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
There is no doubt that George Soros invested a huge amount of his money into all kinds of things, that some people might call "philantropic", but that is not a NPOV. [rant and possible WP:BLP violations removed]
[more removed] If there are objections, please claarify, why "philantropist" is a NPOV and how these articles could possibly be considered neutral sources and confirming the claim. --2003:E7:B70E:E702:10F1:E75D:63BA:6232 (talk) 09:44, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
I had always associated that word with rich people who are trying to do some public relation and avoid taxes until reading this article. What changed my view is listing RMS on that list. And from the description, it is true one is left with a feeling he is a philanthropist. This triggered a thought, Nelson Mandela can easily and nicely fit in that list. Others i can think of from the top of my head is the standard oil crook, Soros, Walton (The Walmart guy) though i think this had more to do with fear of communist affecting his business, the U2 guy, what the heck is his name, Bono or something (Kind of looks like he really want to help Africa out of poverty) and a ...i have run out of it
I've deleted Gandhi, Mother Teresa, and RMS, because "philanthropy" is a side-effect of their primary work. More on this below. --72.92.131.6 02:41, 7 November 2006 (UTC) A one of thoose thingys is a bald man with alot of money that hates it when you spen his money
Bob Geldof and Midge Ure are worthy of this list.
Surely they inspired the greatest "cultural" movement against poverty in Africa, of all time?
Apart from Live Aid, 20 years ago which in itself was a massive event, the recent G8 concerts helped raise awareness at a time when world politics is more concerned with terrorism, and was a possible catalyst in the resulting G8 decisions.
In my opinion, Bob Geldof is a true philanthropist. Midge Ure is perhaps lesser known to the public eye (and I admit I am not familiar with the exact work both of them do), but perhaps he also deserves credit for the political and cultural changes they have made.
IMHO, the criteria should be activities of philanthropy, not motive(s). And to be considered a philanthropist, one need not do that exclusively. There is ample opportunity to elaborate on specifics in each individual article. Very few people (if any) are all good or all bad. Vaoverland 01:59, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
Why are most of the people on this list extreamly rich?
I suggest we limit the list (as per whatever criteria selected above) to folks who have rated articles in Wikipedia - or to people with an on-line biography we can link to directly. I think we should also list the general area(s) of their giving. Rklawton 17:23, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
Alternatively, perhaps we can limit the list to the "top ten all time givers" in terms of dollars and then just use/create a "philanthropist" category we can add to each person's Wikipedia artilce. Frankly, I think there are way too many people who deserve to list than we can list in a practical manner in this one article. Rklawton 17:23, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
I'm more concerned with notability. Who are *notable* philanthropists, not people who just the fit the broad definition. One rule to follow (but not the decisive one) is to make sure "philanthropist" appears on the biographical page for a nominee. If philanthropy doesn't exist or stand the test on the target's article, then it doesn't belong here. Bill Clinton is a notable President (and most of them do charity work), but he's not a philanthropist. His activities are more like his occupation, not a sacrifice. --72.92.131.6 02:45, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
The first part where a philanthropist is explained is great. The rest of the list looks like plagiarism from Who's Who of philanthropists. The Greatest philanthropists by amount of USD looks like a contest. Worse, Bill Gates is on the list by excluding Jim Clark and Marc Andreessen with his trust violations in his business practices. Maybe Jim or Marc would have given more money away or to different causes had Bill Gates not trampled their company. So this Who's Who list makes a philanthropist look like the greediest people on the planet! Yes, I reference the debate over the removal and re-addition of Mother Teresa to the Who's Who list here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Holidaypepsi (talk • contribs) 02:51, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
The list started out in alphabetical order by the surname. When people added to the list, they didn't sort in the proper order. Now the list is only mostly sorted. Perhaps a line should be added to the top to specify the sort order explicitly. Kowloonese 02:18, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
{{ POV-because|Does not approach article from neutral standpoint, gives opinions }}
Dear 71.71.6.113: in the abscence of any in depth discussion of the reason for adding the POV-because template to the article, I'm removing it from the main article, and placing it here on the talk page. If anyone feels the need to restore it, feel free to do so, but please give more detail on why you think the article is not NPOV. (Better yet, just Be Bold and fix the article.) - That said, the article is just a stub/definition. Should it be merged with philanthropy instead? -- 19:10, 8 June 2006 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.104.112.151 (talk • contribs)
As it is, this is a prime example for a bad list. Simply adding people's names does not provide any advantage over Category:Philanthropists, but all the usual disadvantages. Unless people consistently add information to explain why someone is listed it would be wiser to delete this article and concentrate on the category instead.
— Sebastian (talk) 01:56, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
_ _ User:SebastianHelm proceeded to a ProD. I'm removing the tag, without prejudice, bcz i think more groundwork needs to be laid for it to be properly evaluated. The question User:Ixfd64 has quite properly raised amounts to "what about Philanthropist requires it to be treated as distinct from Philanthropy?", and i don't think we can presume to dismiss that without examining what has been in the article that does not belong in List of philanthropists, and might be better covered under this title than under Philanthropy. I'm prepared to accept the answer "Nothing!", based on evidence, but not "Are you kidding? Obviously nothing!". My own contribution to the article was simply restatement and a rdr bypass, i think, but i see that it did concern what purported to be just such material.
_ _ There have been about 300 edits to the article, and reviewing them to see such content would be horrible. I intend to review the first 50, and construct a talk sub-page that includes only the non-list material, and whose history page will essentially model the history that Philanthropist would have, if someone had promptly said "Philanthropist and List of philanthropists are two different topics, and all the editors had accepted that approach. As such, not all of those 50 will have corresponding edits on the sub page: many edits will surely have affected only the list. The result of that 50-edit review may suggest to others whether carrying the exercise further is or isn't worthwhile.
--Jerzy•t 05:08 & 05:52, 8 December 2006 (UTC) modifying lk as suggested
This article should be kept, not merged. The list focuses on philanthropists, not philanthropy. If the list was of acts of philanthropy with the annotations naming who did them, then yes, it would fit the context of the philanthropy article. The Transhumanist 12:38, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
There was so much mention above of deleting these because they lack explanation, that I thought it would be a good idea just to move them here until someone adds annotations to them.
Now you can expand the article at your leisure. The Transhumanist 13:00, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
If the list grows large, then we can keep the most notable examples here, and present the whole list on its own page, calling it the "List of philanthropists". The Transhumanist 22:45, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
I removed the only external link "Information about famous philanthropist Andrew Carnegie" and gave the edit summary "External links to single philanthropists are more suited for their own article". This article largely seems to me like a list of other articles and I think we usually only make external links in the other articles in such cases. If an external link covered several philanthropists then I might support it here. PrimeHunter 03:23, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
in the beginning paragraph, aswell as many other paragraphs throughout this article, ive noticed several cases of minor or extreme bias or opinion, such as "(such as funding art instead of fighting world hunger)". should this article be more closely policed for instances like this? Krispykorn 00:47, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Imran Khan should be on the list too. He worked countless hours on Skukat Memorial Hospital -SKMH. Imran Khan, former cricketer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 148.87.1.170 (talk) 19:49, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.156.229.149 (talk) 16:25, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
Most agreed on the move to the new name, so I did it. I realize there wasn't complete consensus at the time, but nothing has been happening lately. When articles like today's featured J. K. Rowling link to philanthropist they probably want the philanthropy article, not this one. I glanced at some of the backlinks to philanthropist and it seemed like the best choice.
I removed the merge proposition on both pages due to the name change, if anyone disagrees please feel free to put them back. --B Fizz (talk) 13:55, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal has pledged he will donate $32 billion but has not actually donated it as of now. I don't think this qualifies him to be on the top of the list until it is actually donated. Is a pledge significant enough to allow for already being placed on the list?
Flessner89 (talk) 23:53, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
Hello,
I've found a great resource to add some American Philanthropists from the past: http://www.philanthropyroundtable.org/almanac/hall_of_fame/
I'd like to add the following philanthropists to the wikipedia "List of Philanthropists" page with short bios and a citation to their bio on the Philanthropy Roundtable's site:
Bernice Pauahi Bishop
Peter Cooper
Bill Daniels
St. Katharine Drexel
James Duke
Harry Earhart
George Eastman
Thomas Eddy
Don Fisher
Zachary Fisher
Benjamin Franklin
Mary Elizabeth Garrett
Stephen Girard
Conrad Hilton
Ima Hogg
Herbert Hoover
Ewing Kauffman
W. K. Kellogg
Sebastian Kresge
Eli Lilly
Nicholas Longworth
Alfred Loomis
Oseola McCarty
Nettie Fowler McCormick
Andrew Mellon
J. P. Morgan
John Olin
Raymond Orteig
David Packard
George Peabody
Thomas Perkins
J. Howard Pew
Henry Phipps Jr.
Enoch Pratt
Julius Rosenwald
Margaret Olivia Sage
Ellen Browning Scripps
William Simon
Robert Smith
James Smithson
Leland Stanford
Nathan Straus
John Templeton
Judah Touro
William Volker
Madam C. J. Walker
John Walton
George Washington
Isaiah Williamson
Please let me know you thoughts on this.
Livy17 (talk) 21:08, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
The list states that he "donated all his gold to charity." No source is listed for this claim. At Mr. T's article, it states "He stopped wearing virtually all his gold, one of his identifying marks, after helping with the cleanup after Hurricane Katrina in 2005. He said, "As a Christian, when I saw other people lose their lives and lose their land and property ... I felt that it would be a sin before God for me to continue wearing my gold. I felt it would be insensitive and disrespectful to the people who lost everything, so I stopped wearing my gold." That's considerably different from saying that he "donated all his gold to charity". If a proper source cannot be found to support the claim, it should be removed. Bricology (talk) 22:47, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
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Greetings. I'm Andrew with MicroStrategy. For the list of Notable philanthropists, can editors consider Michael J. Saylor? Mr. Saylor is the founder and CEO of MicroStrategy, but he also established a charitable foundation and launched the non-profit Saylor Academy, which offers free and open online education. The Saylor Academy has been mentioned in The Washington Post, Inside Philanthropy, and Inside Higher Ed, among other places.
As a member of MicroStrategy's digital marketing team, I will not make edits relating to Michael J. Saylor myself. Would an editor be willing to add him to this list for me? I kindly thank you in advance.
Regards,
Andrewggordon84 (talk) 20:45, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
Sorry, I don't know enough about it. -- Mati Roy (talk) 21:56, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
Azim Prem Ji, Founder of Wipro and donator of 21 Billion Dollars. Why the third most giver is not in notable List ???? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.16.83.59 (talk) 13:29, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
Why Mr aziz Premji does not appear in the list . He donated usd 21billion to the charity Niteen kumbhojkar (talk) 09:15, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
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