Talk:Mao (card game)
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I have never played this game but, last night, tried to teach myself based on this article. Let me ask a few things that were not clear that came up in the game.
A new section for the chairman?:
1. It appears that there only 1 person who knows the "current" rules at the start of the game. Do we call this person "the Chairman"? (Assuming not Dutch rules.) Is the chairman, therefore, the final authority on the rules and the one most likely to deal the "bad call"?
Answer: The person that wins a round makes a rule and keeps it secret. So nobody knows all the rule which is the fun of the game.
2. It sounded like the winner becomes the dealer and adds a rule. Does he, therefore, become the chairman?
Updated Penalties section:
3. Is it only the chairman who deals penalty cards or can any player do it?
3A. If only the chairman does the enforcing, should the chairman fails to enforce a penalty but some other player knows that it should be enforced, is there a penalty to the chairman? Cavebear42 (talk) 21:35, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
Maybe we should add that sometimes the eights and sixes have rules. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ChappJack (talk • contribs) 00:02, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
There are some places where the author used their instead of his or her and I would like to make a minor edit but can't.
There are too many [citation needed] on this page. Many of the rules listed here are considered "folk versions" of the game. Therefore, the so-called "book versions" won't ever be found ! It is time to clean up this page. Krenakarore (talk) 12:27, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
By the very nature of the game, there are countless rule variants. We cannot and should not endeavor to list them all--see WP:INDISCRIMINATE. First, please, don't add more variant house rules. Second, we need to go in and clean up this mess. I'm not entirely certain how to begin that project, although the first place to start will be the sources--any rule not mentioned in a reliable source will be removed; and then we'll see what's left. Anyone else is welcome to start this, or I'll do it when I have time. Qwyrxian (talk) 14:07, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Why are the rules listed if the object of the game is to learn the rule "The game forbids its players from explaining the rules, and new players are often told only "the only rule you may be told is this one."" WTF!!!!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.96.236.181 (talk) 04:16, 27 September 2010 (UTC) Because we are compiling an encyclopaedia, and are thus not concerned with upholding the internal rules of anything we catalogue. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.69.177.123 (talk) 21:31, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
Due to the very nature of the game, the intrinsic rules and values of the game should and indeed must be respected. I must disagree with the preceding comment. Because the responsibility of compiling an encyclopedia is indeed great, it is increasingly more important to recognize the purpose and primary rule of the game. Furthermore, as earlier stated in this article, other than the dealer's customary "There are many rules in Mao, but perhaps the first and most important rule in Mao is there is no Mao in Mao." The primary rule is to not tell rules. Thus, I must protest the added Rules section, and respectfully demand that it be removed as soon as possible.
Most insistently,
MorgothXVI — Preceding unsigned comment added by MorgothXVI (talk • contribs) 21:09, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
An Arthur Machen short story written in 1899 called The White People contains what may be the earliest reference to a game called "Mao".[8]
I may have an older reference here: The Oxford English Dictionary has the following subentry under "living, noun". This would date it to 1570 but may be a different game entirely. It is item 6 on the following link. http://www.oed.com/view/Entry/109357
Since I do not know Mao, I am not sure.
8tavian (talk) 20:07, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Confirming after further research that this is indeed referencing the game Forty-fives and not Mao. The Tallest Tower (talk) 02:31, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
". There should be 52 cards per player in the game. (Example: 4 players equals 4 decks of cards including the jokers.)"
52 does not include jokers. 54? --138.25.47.215 (talk) 01:57, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
In standard Oxford rules, apart from starting with 5 cards (which is not listed as an option), the main difference is that the game is played without rounds or a particular chairman/dealer. Play continues when someone goes out, and they may deal themselves back in with "Introducing new rule". This rule is not revealed (except by penalising). 2620:104:4007:64:96E:1CD0:D05C:B55C (talk) 12:59, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
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Reference #17 is an Amazon link for a self-published 25-page ebook, which does not seem appropriate. 86.185.141.230 (talk) 22:11, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
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change "In most cases where a penalty is called" to "In most cases when a penalty is called" 73.231.39.177 (talk) 22:05, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
Change "Some variants require the player to announce when having only one card left in their hand" to "Some variants require the player to announce when they have only one card left in their hand" 73.231.39.177 (talk) 23:45, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
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Replace the first paragfraph in "Adding Rules" section with the following text. It ommits the used source, TV Tropes, because it is not reliable source of information for references and external links per section 12 of WP:ELNO and WP:RSP.
In many variants an additional rule is silently and secretly added to the game with each round. It is customary for a player (often the winner of the previous round, sometimes the next person to deal) to add one new rule to the game. In a game with only one round, players who have gotten rid of all their cards may make a rule for those still in the game.[citation needed] Sometimes a new rule is explained to one other player (sometimes the dealer, sometimes a runner-up winner of the round), both to ensure consistency of the rule and consistency of its enforcement. Any new rules are allowed, but it must not be biased towards a player.
2603:7000:1F00:6B91:EDB1:495F:D4EB:8C6F (talk) 19:20, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
This paragraph contradicts itself:
The rules can't be "consistent" if "many variants" exist. There's even a whole section in this article that explains how rules can be added. 2600:8800:80:78:5563:74B9:AC0D:8D72 (talk) 08:46, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
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