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We have been discussing a Featured article review for this article for over two years:
Compared to earlier times, when all of WP:MINN joined forces to build the most comprehensive collection of FAs for any state, I am saddened to see that in these two years, the needed improvements to avoid a FAR have not occurred, and have been replaced by endless discussion of images (a relatively minor item compared to the necessary text additions). It is not possible for one editor, no matter how hard working, to maintain this article at FA standards in such an environment. Geography/place articles are among the hardest to maintain at FA standard, and a collegial environment is key. Perhaps this list (along with the incompleted from the older lists above) will encourage editors here to better focus their efforts.
I will be listing this article at WP:FARGIVEN, which means if the issues indicated in archives, on the To do list, and covered here are not addressed within a few weeks, any editor may submit the article to FAR. My list is not intended to be comprehensive; it outlines only that which I can spot easily and which indicate the article is not at FA standard. From this version. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:34, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
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Minneapolis is divided into eleven communities, each containing several neighborhoods, of which there are 83. In some cases, two or more neighborhoods act together under one organization. Some areas are known by nicknames of business associations.
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In 2018, Minneapolis City Council voted to approve the Minneapolis 2040 Comprehensive Plan, which resulted in a city-wide end to single-family zoning. Minneapolis was the first major city in the United States to make this change.[79]
For a short period of the 1940s, Japanese and Japanese Americans resided in Minneapolis due to US-government relocations, as did Native Americans during the 1950s.
however, immigration of 1,400 Somalis in 2016 slowed to 48 in 2018 under President Trump.
Generally, the flow is off ... content is bouncing around too much and needs better organization with topic sentences for paragraphs.
Svenskbygderna thanks for the demographics. Could you please check my adjustments to be sure I did not introduce any inaccuracy when I recast sentences to avoid starting sentences with numbers? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:36, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
What makes this a reliable source for the content it is citing?
Jim Bakker and Tammy Faye met while attending Pentecostal North Central University, and began a television ministry that by the 1980s reached 13.5 million households.[127]
Demographics chart is 2014; needs update.
As of 2012, Mount Olivet Lutheran Church in southwest Minneapolis was the nation's second-largest Lutheran congregation, with about 6,000 attendees.[1]
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American companies with US offices in Minneapolis include Accenture, Bellisio Foods,[136] Canadian Pacific,
In 2011, the area's $199.6 billion gross metropolitan product and its per capita personal income ranked 13th in the US.[142]
This section is done but a question remains. I removed GDP per resident in 2015, and the ranking from 2011. I wrote to Wilder Research (who writes Minnesota Compass). They don't have GDP available for city of Minneapolis. We can use Hennepin County (almost $122 billion in 2020) or the metro area (about $296 billion in 2021). -SusanLesch (talk) 21:31, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
I have added a citation for Canadian Pacific, which explains their U.S. Headquarters is in Minneapolis. But the sentence there is confusing: We now have:
So we don't name four major companies, but we do name some other selection of companies with "offices in Minneapolis". Hundreds of companies have offices in Minneapolis; do we mean those with headquarters in Minneapolis? And it's odd not to name the four Fortune 500, while we do name these other companies. What is the selection criteria for this list ? Then we show a table of five Fortune 500 companies, while the text says four ? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 00:16, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
Minnesota Orchestra plays classical and popular music at Orchestra Hall under Thomas Søndergård, the music director effective with the 2023–2024 season;[160] One
One 2010 special performance under predecessor Osmo Vänskä at Carnegie Hall made The New Yorker critic Alex Ross write, "... the Minnesota Orchestra sounded, to my ears, like the greatest orchestra in the world".[161]
Prince
Wirth Co-op opened in 2017 but closed within a year.
Many Minneapolis-based individuals have won James Beard Foundation Awards;
Fifteen branches of the Hennepin County Library serve Minneapolis.[212]
Ten special collections hold over 25,000 books and resources for researchers, including the Minneapolis Collection and the Minneapolis Photo Collection.[214]
Table:
Minnesota Wild, an National Hockey League team, play at the Xcel Energy Center;[225] and the Major League Soccer soccer team Minnesota United FC play at Allianz Field, both of which are located in Saint Paul.
The city's parks are governed and operated by the Minneapolis Park and Recreation Board, an independent park district with broader powers than any other parks agency in the US.[232]
Presidential elections
Minneapolis is currently a majority holding
An awful lot of WP:RECENTISM there; can it be written more generally?
A 2021 ballot question to abolish the police department failed.It failed. WP:NOTNEWS.
The US Justice Department[271] and the Minnesota Department of Human Rights[272] have been investigating policing practices in Minneapolis.
Minneapolis's collegiate scene is dominated by the main campus of the University of Minnesota, where more than 50,000 undergraduate, graduate, and professional students attend 20 colleges, schools, and institutes.[278]
The university offers free tuition to students from Minnesota families earning less than $50,000 per year.[279]
The university has unusual constitutional autonomy that has existed in three US states since 1851, when the provision was included in Minnesota's constitution.[281]
The large, principally online universities Capella University and Walden University are both headquartered in the city. The public four-year Metropolitan State University and the private four-year University of St. Thomas are among post-secondary institutions based elsewhere that have campuses in Minneapolis.[283]
TMC Publications publishes The Monitor, ...
What makes this a reliable source?
her studio across Hennepin from the basilica.
Movies filmed in Minneapolis include ...
Among bus lines, local Minneapolis routes are numbered 1 to 49, and higher numbers are for limited-stop, commuter, express, and routes in directional parts of the city.
Riders of Metro Transit system-wide are 44 percent persons of color.[310]
Due to staffing shortages, BRT lines started just as ...
Only one quarter of the US's structurally deficient bridges had been repaired ten years later
The Minneapolis Skyway System, 9.5 miles (15.3 km) of enclosed pedestrian bridges called skyways, links 80 city blocks downtown with second-floor restaurants and retailers that are open on weekdays.[323]
The Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota, is 87 miles (140 km) from Minneapolis.[327]
Abbott Northwestern Hospital, University of Minnesota Medical Center, Hennepin Healthcare, Minneapolis VA Medical Center, Shriners Hospitals for Children, Children's Hospitals and Clinics, University of Minnesota Masonic Children's Hospital, and Phillips Eye Institute serve the city.[326]
Cardiac surgery was developed at the university's Variety Club Hospital, where by 1957, more than 200 patients—many of whom were children—had survived open-heart operations. Working with surgeon C. Walton Lillehei, Medtronic began to build portable and implantable cardiac pacemakers about this time.[328]
Level I trauma center
The Mashkiki Waakaa'igan Pharmacy on Bloomington Avenue
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"Ambassadors", who are identified by their blue-and-green-yellow fluorescent jackets, daily patrol a 120-block area of downtown to greet and assist visitors, remove trash, monitor property, and call police when they are needed. The ambassador program is a public-private partnership with a $6.6 million annual budget that is paid for by a special downtown tax district.[333]
The city treats and distributes water, and charges a monthly fee for trash removal.[335]
There is citation overkill, citation inconsistency, and generally odd citation formatting, samples only:
@SandyGeorgia: Would you please give me an example article or a reference that uses archive urls in advance of dead links? Help:Archiving a source didn't quite correspond to my experience. Thank you. -SusanLesch (talk) 00:47, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
@SandyGeorgia: Ready for you when you have a moment.
Thank you. -SusanLesch (talk) 19:14, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
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in the relevant cite templates. —Collint c 19:55, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
Needs pruning. FAs are supposed to be comprehensive already, and a justification for some of those listed is needed.
Perhaps once all of this is addressed, then attention can focus on images. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:48, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
The lead says:
but the body of the article says:
Please check throughout for similar; that is, the lead should summarize the body, and everything in the lead should be in the body. (It is usually more expedient to leave this sort of thing 'til last, when the body is settled, but I happened to notice it now, so am adding it to the list.) SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:50, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
Greetings, User:Rjensen. You seem to specialize in adding further reading. I've spent nearly an hour trying to track down your most recent additions. WorldCat, the University of Minnesota Press, Google Scholar, and the Wikipedia Library can't find them by title. Care to explain where you unearthed these three books? Thank you. -SusanLesch (talk) 18:26, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
Does anybody have a good source for 19th century immigration? We lost the source from City Pages which for some reason the Internet Archive didn't capture. The Minnesota Historical Society is useless since it switched over to MNopedia, because their sources are only given in a group bibliography (no citations). Next week I can check the book They Chose Minnesota but I'm afraid that they'll deal with the whole state instead of this city. I looked through Google Scholar and the Wikipedia Library but might have missed something. I can find a half dozen good sources but all written from one perspective or another (the Irish in Minneapolis, the Swedes in Minneapolis, etc.). It would be possible to cobble these together but we really need an overview. -SusanLesch (talk) 19:37, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
An archive for the record. Streets.mn is used to define a term in the Neighborhoods section. The outcome at WP:RSN was mixed due to its editorial policies but despite some shortcomings, the site has been okayed for limited use here. A caution for the future, the site is not okayed for contentious claims. -SusanLesch (talk) 13:39, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
Hi all, does anyone have this source on hand (or have easy library access to it)? It could use the page range if possible. Thanks! Albert, Michael (1981). "The Japanese". In Holmquist, June D. (ed.). They Chose Minnesota: A Survey of the States Ethnic Groups. Minnesota Historical Society Press. ISBN 0873512316. —Collint c 16:56, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
Hi 24.152.189.46, just to let you know that your edits were great but they eliminated the river and the sailboat from the images (the river is essential and the sailboat looks like the city logo), and they introduced too many regions into the first paragraph. The Upper Midwest and the Northern Great Plains aren't the subject of this article but there they were to stumble over. -SusanLesch (talk) 21:44, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
Y Why does the city's founding have 5 citations? They are unnecessary per WP:OVERCITE. Sandy mentioned this above in Citation consistency. -SusanLesch (talk) 00:36, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
I made this edit to try to give some context for the uninformed reader, who may not know what Bde Maka Ska is, thereby forced to click out of the article to find out if it is a river, a stream, a pond, a lake or what, since the name is non-English. There may be a more elegant way to do this, but we can't just say Lake Bde Maka Ska, as that would be the equivalent of saying Lake Lake White Earth, which doesn't work, and yet we need to give the reader some clue as to what they're looking at that doesn't force them to click out of this article. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:29, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
The lead starts with is in the U.S. state
which expands to is in the United States state
. Is there a better way to wrap it? Cheers! {{u|WikiWikiWayne}} {Talk}
01:03, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
{{u|WikiWikiWayne}} {Talk}
20:45, 11 February 2023 (UTC)I made a stab at massaging the lead lightly. Let me know how it resonates with y'all's. Cheers! {{u|WikiWikiWayne}} {Talk}
00:33, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
The article contains the following:
The United States' first vegan butcher shop, The Herbivorous Butcher, opened in 2016.[1]
This statement "vegan butcher shop" may be confusing to readers, since "Butcher" only discusses meat products. Meat alternative store would be more accurate. Magnolia677 (talk) 10:16, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
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Sources:
That's a good sampling (there are many more); any of these are preferable to local or specialty magazines, which could raise the question of why include this particular niche item, when scores of restaurants get regional coverage. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:12, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
@Magnolia677: You added Al's Breakfast today saying it won a James Beard award. True, however that happened in 2004. As discussed above in the Religion section, this article uses 2010 as a hard cut off for most claims. For example, this morning I removed a solid claim from 2012 that came close to that dateline. Al's doesn't belong here and I removed it. -SusanLesch (talk) 17:56, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
"Regarding Mr. Hoffman, if "the whole paragraph has to go", it would improve the article by removing the many non-notable names of award winners. I will look through Hoffman's article--and others--for some encyclopedic content to add to this section of the article. Thank you again. Magnolia677 (talk) 16:10, 16 September 2022 (UTC)"I did my part in good faith. Now you do your fair share. Remove the 5-8 Club photo, and add some content about food. To refresh your memory: The James Beard 2019 M.F.K. Fisher Distinguished Writing Award went to Steve Hoffman for “What Is Northern Food?” in Artful Living. -SusanLesch (talk) 00:34, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
SusanLesch and Magnolia677, I think it would be best if you two stopped interacting for a while. You're not communicating and the article is suffering for it. Mackensen (talk) 21:24, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
@Magnolia677: About five months ago you said you would write something about food for this article based on Hoffman's article and others. Hoffman is inspiring and I hope you will keep your word. The M.F.K. Fisher award is national and prestigious. He clearly loves Minneapolis chefs. If you do not plan to follow through, now would be an opportunity to say so. Thank you. -SusanLesch (talk) 16:42, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
I suppose it doesn't hurt to have this info in the article, but a) does it need to be in the lead; b) if it's in the lead, it has to be in the body; and c) of course it needs citation. For comparison, some other city FAs are Ann Arbor, Michigan, Cleveland, and Washington, D.C.. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:01, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
@WikiWikiWayne: Source is here in JSTOR. Blegen defines "board feet" on page 4. On page 8, "By 1890 Minneapolis, cutting close to a half billion feet, was the premier lumber market not only of Minnesota but of the world." He uses the term "feet" 16 times without the word "board." -SusanLesch (talk) 20:47, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
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@WikiWikiWayne: What is your point please? Several reliable sources used feet and several used board feet. MN DNR (feet), historical society (board-feet), Minneapolis Journal (feet), The White Pine Industry in Minnesota: A History (feet and board feet). -SusanLesch (talk) 15:31, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
23 to 40 m. feet clear inch Bds.[1](and every item in the order says m.). What are you trying to say please? -SusanLesch (talk) 16:34, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
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23:09, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
Y I rented one book and re-read the lumber section of one we've used for many years. The facts were plain: one sentence was insufficient to describe the role lumber milling played in the city's history. Now expanded to a paragraph and a half. We are laboring under a "more than 10 paragraphs" constraint described in WP:USCITIES for the History section. I think a paragraph break should precede the collapse of the Eastman tunnel but that one keystroke would be risking a rebuke from User:Magnolia677. I don't have time for that. -SusanLesch (talk) 14:35, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
I recommend that photos at the top of the infobox be thinned down. Maybe remove 2 of the smaller photos to remove 1 row. Maybe remove "First Avenue" and "Lake Nokomis"? • Sbmeirow • Talk • 04:37, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
If the goal is trimming photos, I would suggest (again) removing one of the two nearly-identical photos of the waterfall.
Magnolia677 (talk) 23:06, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
In May 2020, Derek Chauvin, a White officer of the Minneapolis Police Department, murdered George Floyd, a Black man, with the resulting global protests putting Minneapolis and racism at the center of national and international attention.
Mentions of George Floyd, Derek Chauvin, the protests, etc. are fine in the body of the article (there's already a paragraph about that under Minneapolis#Social tensions), but IMO the sentence above is WP:UNDUE for the lead and fails the WP:10YEARTEST. This is an article about the city of Minneapolis; the George Floyd situation is only tangential to the city itself. I propose that we remove the sentence above from the lead, or at least re-write that whole last paragraph to include more about the city's History (Social tensions) and Government (or even race relations, if it's DUE) so that the George Floyd content can be better integrated into the lead if it were to be included. Some1 (talk) 03:12, 7 March 2023 (UTC) Pinging SusanLesch since they reverted my edit removing that sentence. Some1 (talk) 03:12, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
Hello. I don't understand our new section "Racial disparities." I can't get a copy of Tom Weber's book for love or money until Monday night (I have two copies at home). User:Some1 copied a paragraph from History of Minneapolis entirely cited to Weber. Unless Some1 has read that book and can verify the citation I don't accept the addition. The previous section under "Social tensions", describes in at least six sentences the cause of racial disparities, and then in about three and a half sentences describes Hubert Humphrey's attempt (that failed) to restore equality, and then years of racial turmoil. Our new section describes the death of George Floyd, but not Jamar Clark, Philando Castile, Amir Locke, or anybody else. Can anybody else make sense of this new section?
In May 2020, Derek Chauvin, a White officer of the Minneapolis Police Department, murdered George Floyd, a Black man, with the resulting global protests putting Minneapolis and racism at the center of national and international attention.part from the RfC. Okay, I'll make the change. Some1 (talk) 19:55, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
Does ANYONE see the inuse template? I am trying to clean up citation errors as others are changing the text; the point of INUSE is to avoid edit conflicts. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:21, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
I propose we archive everything on this page to Talk:Minneapolis/Archive 10, which would result in almost all of the runup to a potential WP:FAR being easily found in one archive. (I've requested closure on the open RFC.) The bulk of the FAR concerns were entered in my long post at #WP:FARGIVEN, and there has been enough progress that (at least for my style of FA reviewing), the next step is a final pass in the form of a fresh top-to-bottom review on a clean page to facilitate closer scrutiny of anything left.
If there are any sections above that anyone feels have not yet addressed and should stay on the page, please flag them, else, can we archive after the RFC closes ? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:35, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard#RFC on Minneapolis cuisine image. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:33, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
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Should George Floyd be mentioned in the lead of the Minneapolis article? 19:56, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
@SandyGeorgia: You reverted my edit, and re-inserted this image using Template:Wide image. The image is not categorized as a "panoramic", its dimensions are dissimilar to the example at WP:PIC#Panoramas, and it adds significant whitespace to the article. Also, WP:PIC#Panoramas suggests using the wide image template for "Images wider than 550px or so". You added it as 500 px. Could you explain? Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 08:30, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
Likely to be questioned at FAR:
Be prepared to explain how these sources meet WP:RS (if they do). SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:57, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
Twin Cities news outlets Southwest Voices, Racket, North News, Heavy Table, KRSM, and NewPrensa have joined forces under the banner of Twin Cities Media Group to be one-stop shop for local advertisers.. Southwest Voices and Racket can never replace Southwest Journal and City Pages but both were cleared to use in non-controversial local news. -SusanLesch (talk) 19:26, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:57, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
Question: How should two-part publishers be handled? I found two ways: "Gale Family Library, Minnesota Historical Society" and "US Census Bureau: American Community Survey". -SusanLesch (talk) 14:31, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
Question: Are these two remaining compound refs acceptable? I have no combined source. Under Sports, hosting of major sporting events, and under Music, list of opera companies. -SusanLesch (talk) 15:02, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
Question: Should a report (that's used three times) be recited inline, or should it be sfns and added to Journal articles in works cited? -SusanLesch (talk) 15:02, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
Comment:To stop visitors from adding them. This was probably the most frequent drive-by edit to this article. -SusanLesch (talk) 21:36, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
Question: WP:USCITIES guidelines say under sports, "It is common practice for sports sections to include discussions of teams that are within the metro area, even if the team's home venue is outside the city limits." Does that mean we ought to include both soccer and hockey? I believe so.-SusanLesch (talk) 17:42, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
Question: Is there a written rule that we cannot use search results as a source? I looked at WP:RS and didn't find it but think I have seen it somewhere. (The state of Minnesota has all these schools in a database but only retrieves them with search.) -SusanLesch (talk) 20:00, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
Approximately 15 percent of land in Minneapolis is parks, in accordance with the 2020 national median, and 98 percent of residents live within one-half mile (0.8 km) of a park.
This is a 2003 source: is it current?
SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:41, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
This statement doesn't say anything, is basically just promotional, and should be replaced with something of substance:
In searching for a better source and something worth saying, I came across:
which is great for what we need, but is 2002 (dated). Can anyone find something like that, but more recent? The cultural sections here are cited to self a lot, and it should be possible to do better. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:02, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
Fifteen of the fifty-five Twin Cities theatre companies counted in 2015 by Peg Guilfoyle had a physical site in Minneapolis.[1] About half the remainder performed in variable spaces throughout the metropolitan area.[1] With funding from the McKnight and Jerome foundations, the Playwrights' Center in Minneapolis awards fellowships and stipends to playwrights to develop their work.[2]
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These two sentences are not connected; explain to the reader how the first sentence relates to the second-- else, why is it here ?
After flight to the suburbs began in the 1950s, streetcar service ended citywide.[252] One of the largest urban food deserts in the U.S. developed on the north side of Minneapolis, where as of mid-2017, 70,000 people had access to only two grocery stores.[253]-SusanLesch (talk) 16:12, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
We can't use Charles M. Loring to tout himself, but Nadinechek and Neckar do specifically mention Loring and others (in the passage about working with "kindred spirits") wrt Cleveland's work on the parks, so I have rejigged this bit to avoid WP:SYNTHesis of sources. I hope. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:57, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
@Magnolia677: and @SandyGeorgia: and @Bobamnertiopsis: and everybody else: instead of cataloging a flat list of superlatives that don't mean anything, I tried to project a little energy in visual arts and music. This is harder to do than it looks. Would you mind proofreading these three paragraphs using your critical eyes?
From visual art:
Walker Art Center began as a fabulous private art collection in the home of lumberman T. B. Walker during the Gilded Age. Six days a week, a maid welcomed the public at the door offering free admittance and a catalog.[1] Around 1940, the Walker's focus shifted to modern and contemporary art.[2] The center expanded in 2005 with an addition by Herzog & de Meuron.[2] The Walker says, together with the Minneapolis Sculpture Garden across the street, it receives more than 700,000 visitors each year.[2]
The Minneapolis Institute of Art (Mia) is located in south-central Minneapolis on the 10-acre (4-hectare) former homestead of the Morrison family.[3] The collection of more than 90,000 artworks spans six continents and about 5,000 years.[4] Perhaps reflecting the ambitions of the founders—for whom the name "museum" was too limited[5]—competition winner McKim, Mead & White designed a complex seven times the size of what opened in 1915.[6] Between 1972 and 1974, Kenzō Tange built right and left wings in the minimalist style yet following the original McKim, Mead & White scheme, adding 314,000 square feet (29,200 m2).[6] In 2006, Michael Graves added the 13,000-square-foot (1,200 m2) Target wing to the south.[6]
From music:
Singer and multi-instrumentalist Prince was born in Minneapolis and lived in the area most of his life.[7] Prince was a musical prodigy, enriched by a music program at The Way Community Center,[8] who first played Sam's in 1981, the year the club was renamed First Avenue.[9] To the amusement and sometimes dismay of management—whose skillful booking had overcome racial discrimination downtown,[lower-alpha 1] sightseers began to think Prince owned First Avenue & 7th St Entry, which had become Minnesota's number one tourist destination.[11][12] But the revenue was welcome, and the artist and the club advanced each other's reputation and influence[13]— Prince was a superstar[lower-alpha 2] and First Avenue was the heart of American 1980s[lower-alpha 3] rock music.[10]
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[Founder Alan] Fingerhut laughed last week about how often Prince was mistaken as the club's owner in those days: 'I was fine with that. In a way, he did own it.'
Chrissie Dunlap told Pitchfork, 'The rumors were, "That's Prince's club."'
...one of the reasons this club has become as iconic as it is, is due to the legacy left by hometown hero, Prince. Throughout the '80s, Prince made a name for First Avenue while simultaneously, First Avenue made a name for Prince.
Meanwhile I am done playing hopscotch and am methodically going through sources top to bottom (about half done). -SusanLesch (talk) 15:04, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
Can anyone come up with a better way to say this?
The largest concentration living in the state, the Minneapolis population of people from India increased by 1,000 between 2000 and 2010.
Maybe? The Minneapolis population of people from India, who are the largest concentration living in the state, increased by 1,000 between 2000 and 2010.
Thanks in advance. -SusanLesch (talk) 19:09, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
The number of Indian people born in India increased by 1,000 between 2000 and 2010, making Minneapolis the largest concentration of Indian people in the state.I assume you're talking about foreign-born Indians who immigrated to Minneapolis, right? Svenskbygderna (talk) 03:09, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
Just for the archive. I removed a bundle of two extra refs from the image of Prince.[1] These two refs, one of which still connects, were all we had to go on at the time. I called Lise Houlton who kindly told me the story was true. The ref that remains in the caption appeared in print after featured article review. Thanks to Ms. Palmer and the Star Tribune for their article, which has since gone 404 but was captured by the Internet Archive.
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-SusanLesch (talk) 23:21, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
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While growing up, Prince had ballet training through an initiative called the Urban Arts Program...Prince took classes with MDT in Dinkytown.
I was mistaken, the Minnesota Magazine & Publishing Association may be defunct but not since "around 2013". The Internet Archive has a copy of the top page of their member directory from 2018. Somewhere the organization might have been changed to the Minnesota Media & Publishing Association. Both use the initialism MMPA, and one or the other let their domain expire at mmpa.net. I am still trying to find a working URL for a list of members which might be our only reliable overview of local news. (This organization was mentioned in Media Tales by O'Meara and Keller (2007); who say they had 95 members statewide in 2006, and of course a good number are published in the suburbs or Saint Paul.) P.S. I asked for help at WikiProject Minnesota. -SusanLesch (talk) 16:03, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
P.S. Reversed my cut of Restaurant Finance Monitor. It's used to cite other Wikipedia articles.
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Just checking the source today, the source Cornell gives a different story than Note G on the table, which says "Official records for Minneapolis/Saint Paul were kept by the Saint Paul Signal Service in that city from January 1871 to December 1890, the Minneapolis Weather Bureau from January 1891 to April 8, 1938, and at KMSP since April 9, 1938." Where does the airport become KMSP?
Quoting Cornell ThreadEx:
Threaded Station Extremes Station: MN - Minneapolis-St Paul Report: Station thread Station thread
Station Thread for Minneapolis-St Paul Area, MN
Name Period in Thread
1 MINNEAPOLIS-ST PAUL INTL ARPT 07/2004 to 12/2022
2 MINNEAPOLIS-ST PAUL INTL ARPT (supplied by NWS) 11/2000 to 06/2004
3 MINNEAPOLIS-ST PAUL INTL ARPT 04/09/1938 to 10/31/2000
4 MINNEAPOLIS WB DWTN 05/1891 to 04/08/1938
5 ST PAUL SIGNAL SERVICE (supplied by MN SC)
-SusanLesch (talk) 22:32, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
Hi Collin. Maybe you can figure out Ref 45? Template help told me that chapter doesn't work in cite journal when a work parameter is used. I suspect that's maybe also true for url. -SusanLesch (talk) 22:25, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
There are HarvRef errors all over the place; please install User:Trappist the monk/HarvErrors.js to have a look. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 00:15, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
Seamless Wikipedia browsing. On steroids.
Every time you click a link to Wikipedia, Wiktionary or Wikiquote in your browser's search results, it will show the modern Wikiwand interface.
Wikiwand extension is a five stars, simple, with minimum permission required to keep your browsing private, safe and transparent.