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Sistine Chapel was a good article, but it was removed from the list as it no longer met the good article criteria at the time. There are suggestions below for improving the article. If you can improve it, please do; it may then be renominated. Review: January 5, 2006. (Reviewed version). |
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I was there about a week ago. We were told when we were on the tour of the Vatican, that the restorers were a Japanese film company and that in return for restoring the chapel, they wanted the copyrights to it. Can anyone tell me who owns the copyright to it? --66.169.108.95 17:53, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
Very interesting question. Anyone specializes in Art Law / copyright who would like to comment?Biondanyc 18:05, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
It says on the main page that today the SC's ceiling was repainted. I find it hard to believe Michaelangelo did it all in one day; was this the day it started or ended? -Litefantastic 12:43, 1 Nov 2004 (UTC)
I visited the Sistine Chapel in 1972 and it was being restored then ... scaffolding all over the place ... and you could only view from a distance. So restoration began prior to 1984 ... by over a decade! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.179.83.124 (talk) 22:26, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
Under 'Architechture', "...the construction work was supervised by Giovannino de' Dolci between 1473 and 1784, ", I would hope is a typo!
also the dates given for michelangelo's painting of both the sistine chapel and the last judgement are inconsistent. once it says 1508-1511, the other says 1508- 2 november 1512. the last judgement once says 1537-1541 the other says 1542. can someone confirm the exact dates please —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.27.230.134 (talk) 12:33, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi
Is it true that the Tapestries from Raphael's cartoons are only brought out for major events in the Sistine. Such an event is the current Conclave to select a new Pope ?
If so are there any pictures or video of the Chapel in all its glory complete with the Raphael tapestries ? Where can I get them ?
Thanks Michael veronese1515@googlemail.com
I have the answer Lagosman 17:18, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
Unfortunately, this article has no statement of references, so I'm removing it from the GA list. AndyZ 23:09, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
When I was a young school kid (circa 1991, I guess), I remember sitting in class and watching a news report on Channel One claiming that as part of the ceiling restoration, they were soon going to be painting clothing onto some/all (can't remember) of the currently-nude people in the paintings. They showed "artist's renderings" of the pending changes for a few sections of the ceiling, with all the former nude people now wrapped up in cloth like Jesus wears in traditional crucifixion paintings (like this one. I was only 11-ish at the time but I was outraged that they would do something so horrible and ridiculous; plus the "edits" looked obvious and awful. I can't remember much about the news report (it was ~15 years ago and I was in elementary school), but they made out like the decision had already been made and the censorship was going to be done to the ceiling in the near future. Never having heard otherwise, I've been upset and angry about it ever since then, not just about the defilement of such a famous artwork, but also about people's apparant apathy and ignorance because I never saw any other coverage or protests about the censorship.
But I just recently checked several Wikipedia articles, and I can't find any reference that this ever actually happened! Did it? The article mentions controversy about cleaning the grime from the ceiling, but it says nothing about painting clothing on the nude figures, which would surely be a hundred times as controversial!
If it never happened, then what was the deal with that news report I saw circa 1991? Were there originally plans to conceal the nudity that were later (thankfully) abandoned? Who drew the awful "updated version" that I saw on the news? Or is my memory completely faulty, and maybe I've confused the Sistine Chapel with some other work of art that was being subjected to a censorship restoration?
4.89.247.77 02:36, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
The Sistine chapel was indeed repainted to cover the nudity but this was done in the 16th/17th century. Dr mindbender 08:01, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
Ok! I hope I'm not upset anybody, but i look forever on the page to find were to post this. It is actualy a simple quastion.
I found this , and it says
The Sistine Chapel
As Pope Sixtus IV needed a chapel for domestic services he ordered the architect Giovanni dei Dolci to build him one. That was in 1473; the building was finished in 1481.
and on wikipedia it says
The architectural plans to were made by Baccio Pontelli and the construction work was supervised by Giovannino de Sweet between 1473 and 1484, at the orders of Pope Sixtus IV, from whom the Sistine Chapel takes its name.
So can anyboby confirm that or check wich one is right.
tkx
--Amandajm 16:40, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
Is the chapel's real name actually Sistine Chapel? Because it's customary to name chapels and churches after saints, not after whoever commissioned it. It seems like Sistine Chapel is more like a nickname for it. Everything in the Vatican has its nicknames aside from their official names. But then again, I recall reading Church documents that call it the Sistine Chapel and not anything else. And the Pauline Chapel doesn't seem to have its own official name either. Anyone know?J.J. Bustamante 04:10, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
Is is named after St Sixtus (as in the guy in the painting "Sistine Madonna")? Or is it that, given sistine=six, simply derived from "chapel #6"? 150.101.50.100 05:53, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
But can someone explain how the name Sixtus becomes the word Sistine? Kingturtle (talk) 19:54, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
Can somebody explain why this section had almost all of its info cut and was renamed? ptfreak 12:57, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
The article states that Michelangelo stood on the scaffold he built to paint the ceiling. I remember hearing however, the he actually laid on the scaffolding with his back facing directly down to the floor for hours. The fact may have come from "The Agony and the Ecstasy", though I don't have a copy on hand to verify. Can anyone else verify? It's a testament to the man's dedication if he actually did. (Try painting anything on your back with the canvas above your head, if you're not sure why) MyOwnLittlWorld 03:46, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
I really don't think that we need to have the opinion of a professional basketball player given equal weight with people like Vasari, Goethe and Werner Herzog. Unless someone can justify the inclusion of his non-notable opinion, I'll strike it from the entry. Bricology 02:50, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
Would anyone object to dividing the fresco sections into their own articles than then linking to them from this one through summary style? It seems to me that all of them, particularly Christ Giving the Key to St. Peter, has enough coverage where it deserves its own article. Input on this idea is welcome though. Warm regards, SorryGuy Talk 04:59, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Cut these; leaving here for later intergration:
Giorgio Vasari (about Michelangelo's frescoes):
I think the Herzog quote is trite, but leaving here anyway. Ceoil (talk) 13:37, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Would this photo provide a benefit to the article if it was incorporated? FSU Guy (talk) 03:45, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
That is a very nice picture, it would be really nice if it was up there. MlgProGuy 03:30, 23 July 2012
There is this sentence in the article. Nor is known the extent to which his own hand physically contributed to the actual physical painting of any of particular images attributed to him. This seems to be mis-leading. It is commonly believed that he painted all of the paintings attributed to him. His apprentices might have been with him, but that does not take way the credits from the master. Should it be reworded? Phoe6 (talk) 06:53, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
As I've learned just recenty by watching this youtube documentary (1:25 min. preview)The Michelangelo Code: Lost Secrets of the Sistine Chapel, the public entrance/exit has been changed after Michelangelo has finished his paintings. Did Michelangelo align the paintings in a certain manner, so if people come in here they see the first parts of the ceiling just above the visitors and then look further away?
Why was the entrance switched to the opposite side?
Both should be mentioned in the article I would suggest. --Scriberius (talk) 09:54, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
Should this quote be placed in the article?
"Without having seen the Sistine Chapel one can form no appreciable idea of what one man is capable of achieving."
Johann Wolfgang Goethe, 1787
--Scriberius (talk) 15:22, 24 January 2009 (UTC) modified --Scriberius (talk) 13:06, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
Question: why is this section nearly word-for-word lifted from the Web Gallery of Art's description of the fresco? It should be entirely rewritten or just thrown in as a quotation from the source. There is some original material in it, but it's sparse. Plagiarism is abound. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mtoyama (talk • contribs) 19:49, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
These frescos have been destroyed in the 1530s or 1540s by Michelangelo in order to have space for the Last Judgment. This fact should be mentioned in the article with verification. --77.4.86.203 (talk) 17:12, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
The article haphazardly calls this fresco Scenes from the Life of Moses and Scenes of the Life of Moses. Which is correct? (i.e. which is (a) the work's canonical English name, and/or (b) a more accurate translation from the Italian).
According to Google, "from" is the more commonly used English name (with 25,900 hits for "from", vs. 4,640 for "of"). But that's hardly authoritative.
The article should standardize on one name. (If neither is more correct than the other, it would be good to state the fact, but then pick one and run with it.)
Erics (talk) 17:12, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
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This article suffered heavily from the poor (or null) treatment of the other frescoes, including some VERY IMPORTANT ONES (Botticelli, Perugino, Ghirlandaio, just to mention some) on the other three walls than the Judgement's one. There was just one describing a Perugino work, introduced by the very POVish "Among Perugino's work the styilistically more instructive is...", which I've changed to a more sober and encyclopedical one. The other sections will be completed in a near future, so please avoid removing them. Ciao and good work. --'''Attilios''' (talk) 15:55, 3 May 2011 (UTC) its good but the is not same like the given phot they may be a true prophet jesus or a true muslim not more Italic textgod is very beautiful than all creations we looked — Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.71.215.230 (talk) 08:22, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
Bmanary (talk) 00:46, 9 August 2011 (UTC)Bmanary Since 1996 there has been a special building, the Domus Sanctae Marthae, to house Cardinals during conclaves. The Sistine Chapel is now used for discussion and votes only.
Hi. I don't recall having seen superscript in legends. If that is so,then the legend needs to be rewritten to remove references to unsubstantiated "most famous". Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 22:18, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
Corrected an error in the text stating the first mass was held on 9 August 1483 when other sources confirm it was on 15 August 1483 (The Fest of the Assumption). Changed reference to the Vatican Museum web site, so I assume that is indeed the correct date. Unfortunately, the 9 August date was erroneously used in the 2013 "On This Day..." feature on the Wikipedia front page. Wkharrisjr (talk) 14:38, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
"The sources of Michelangelo's inspiration are not easily determined; both Joachite and Augustinian theologians were within the sphere of Julius influence. Nor is known the extent to which his own hand physically contributed to the actual physical painting of any of the particular images attributed to him.[24]" Reference: Andrew Graham-Dixon
I dispute the first sentence and have removed the second of these sentences as carrying the wrong implication.
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