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Please change this paragraph:
East Jerusalem, the proclaimed capital of Palestine, is administered as part of the Jerusalem District of Israel, but is claimed by Palestine as part of the Jerusalem Governorate. It was annexed by Israel in 1980,[1] but this annexation is not recognised by any other country.[2] Of the 456,000 people in East Jerusalem, rough 60% are Palestinian and 40% are Israeli.[1][3]
New text of the paragraph:
East Jerusalem, the proclaimed capital of Palestine, is administered as part of the Jerusalem District of Israel, but is claimed by Palestine as part of the Jerusalem Governorate. In 1980 the Israeli Knesset passed the Jerusalem Law, making East Jerusalem part of the Jerusalem municipality. This action has been called annexation,[1] but there are differences; for example, Palestinian residents of East Jerusalem were not granted Israeli citizenship. The Jerusalem Law is not recognised by any other country.[4] The boundaries of the Jerusalem municipality have been extended since 1967 and now reach almost to Bethlehem and Ramallah. Of the 456,000 people in East Jerusalem, rough 60% are Palestinian and 40% are Israeli.[1][3]
These changes make the description of east Jerusalem in the State of Palestine article more consistent with the East Jerusalem article. Jarnon (talk) 05:36, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
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ignored (help)As it stands now, the section is: "Tourism in the State of Palestine is becoming popular in recent years[when?] due to the natural beauty and historical background of the area. Every year Palestine receives more than one million international visitors.[citation needed]"
All three claims here are either baseless or unencylopedic: 1) There is no reliable source for the growing popularity of tourism, and until one is produced such claim does not belong in the article. 2) "due to the natural beauty and historical background of the area" is a subjective and self-promotional statement which, again, does not belong in an encyclopedic article. 3) There is no reliable source for one million international visitors, and until one is produced such claim does not belong in the article.
As such, I believe these two sentences are to be removed and replaced with a link to the general article on tourism in the Palestinian region.
Cheers, --~There were better times. (talk) 20:52, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
Has Sweden really recognised Palestine as a sovereign state? The current government under Löfven has, but they hold a minority of the seats and afaik the parliament does not recognise Palestine. --217.211.215.25 (talk) 14:51, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
Sweden retracted their recognition of Palestine, learn more through a simple search. 80.6.70.42 (talk) 01:10, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
Shhhhwwww!! Here you made "Palestine" a WP:BOLDTITLE, implying that it "is a formal or widely accepted name for the subject". As you can see in the move discussion that you initiated, so far most of the editors disagree with this notion. If the unofficial name should appear in the lead at all, it should appear second. “WarKosign” 10:16, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
I have reverted this for now. The edit was certainly not "minor". Also, it needs further discussion. Kingsindian ♝♚ 10:53, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
Indeed I forgot to comment on WP:MINOR: "Any edit that changes the meaning of an article is not a minor edit". Marking an obviously controversial edit as minor creates the impression that you tried to sneak it in without anyone noticing. “WarKosign” 11:51, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
A move request, that conflicts with the one open above, has been opened at Talk:Palestine -- 67.70.32.190 (talk) 05:20, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. There is a rough consensus against moving the articles. Regardless, even if the result had been no consensus we still would have stuck with the status quo. However, there did seem to be a reasonable level of support for having a dab page at the base location, so there should be no prejudice against a new RM discussing the merits of moving Palestine (disambiguation) → Palestine and Palestine to Palestine (region) (or some variant). If anyone does propose this, please make sure it's a correctly formatted multi-move RM. Also I know some people might be irked that I've just procedurally closed an RM arguably about this at Talk:Palestine, but frankly you should have waited until this one had closed – don't reopen that one either. Jenks24 (talk) 16:39, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
– WP:PRIMARYTOPIC and WP:COMMONNAME. Since it has been recognized by the United Nations and two thirds of the world's sovereign states, most references to the word "Palestine" refers to the sovereign state. The demonym "Palestinian people" refers to citizens of this state. The current region of Palestine is now "Israel" so the names should reflect the reality. Shhhhwwww!! (talk) 16:17, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
The usage and primary topic of Palestine is under discussion, see talk:Palestine (disambiguation) -- 67.70.32.190 (talk) 04:14, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of State of Palestine's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "Slavik2001 p.60":
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 04:05, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
I think this is a really poor description. It is equally applicable to Israel, or even Taiwan.
First, while 135 (70%) is technically "partially", it's also more precisely "widely", ie, "recognised by most states". "partially" suggests a minority of countries recognise the state.
"de jure sovereign state"—what does this actually mean? The State of Palestine is recognised by 135 UN member states; therefore, 135 UN member states recognised that the State of Palestine posses sovereignty. Sovereignty is about the right to govern, so the statement: "the State of Palestine is widely recognised as a sovereign state" is perfectly accurate. No need for the ambiguous, undescriptive "de jure" nonsense.
Of course, that statement could also apply to Israel, or any other state. So how do we actually explain the status of the State of Palestine?
I think that is a much more descriptive than the current lead sentence. Thoughts?
Rob984 (talk) 10:45, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
The State of Palestine[i] (Arabic: دولة فلسطين Dawlat Filasṭīn) is a partially recognized state with partial control of governance within claimed territories."?
The State of Palestine[i] (Arabic: دولة فلسطين Dawlat Filasṭīn) is a partially recognized state with partial of governance up to the demarcation lines of the 1949 Armistice Agreements."?
The State of Palestine[i] (Arabic: دولة فلسطين Dawlat Filasṭīn) is a partially recognized state with partial of governance within territories up to the 1949 Armistice lines."?
I do not have strong feelings on what it should be called, but there is a lot of WP:OR going on here. Firstly, it is not up to editors to determine the status of occupation of an area. Gaza Strip is indeed occupied - all of West Bank, Gaza and East Jerusalem is part of the "occupied Palestinian territories" (see ICRC page here) for just one example, many more can be given. The Area A, B, C divisions are primarily administrative, and has no role in determining status of occupation. What should be done here is to check how reliable academic sources describe Palestine (do they call it "partially recognized sovereign state", etc.). International law is complex. Wikipedia editors should not be making such determinations. Kingsindian ♝♚ 16:32, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
I have amended the wording to something I think will be uncontentious: simply not mentioning the extent of control. I don't think this is ideal but it's certainly better than inferring the state is equivalent to a government-in-exile. Rob984 (talk) 13:57, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
Is Palestine a state sponsor of terror? SHould that be added? 206.82.167.3 (talk) 20:35, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
--Bolter21 11:59, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
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please change "Palestine#Etymology" to "Palestine (region)#Etymology"
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Please add Mawtini as the de-facto anthem, majority of Palestinians consider Mawtini to be their anthem more than Fidai. Mawtini was written by the Palestinian nationalist and poet Ibrahim Tuqan in the 1930s. It was the national anthem for Palestinians since then and then the PLO came along with their anthem Fidai. DrNein (talk) 19:43, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
Please comment on the need to restructure the three overlapping and jumbled articles (previously proposed at Talk:State of Palestine/Restructuring proposal):
The particular issues to be resolved are:
Please comment on the proposal to move these sections between the different articles to create more cohesive and focused articles.
Oncenawhile (talk) 20:57, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
Further to the discussion at Talk:History_of_the_State_of_Palestine#Requested_move_12_September_2015, I propose that the first step of this restructuring is a merging of the extremely long and detailed State_of_Palestine#History into the History_of_the_State_of_Palestine article. Before I embark on this, does anyone have any thoughts on what level of detail should remain here? Oncenawhile (talk) 13:30, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
Should consensus decide that a merger of the "Territory" article with the "State" article is warranted, we will need to agree on a name for the combined article. A paragraph in the lead will then explain the alternative viewpoints. Please provide a view for the combined title (either "State of Palestine" or "Palestinian territories") below, with explanation. Oncenawhile (talk) 08:03, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
There is a discussion whether the article should present State of Palestine as being located in the Palestinian Territories, your input is welcome. “WarKosign” 20:51, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
"Palestine is our ever-memorable historic home. The very name of Palestine would attract our people with a force of marvelous potency". Theodor Herzl, founder of Zionism, from his book "The Jewish State", 1896.--MichaelURSA (talk) 15:37, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
Hi,
Instead of Partially de jure, what about proto-State ? Pluto2012 (talk) 16:57, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
http://www.hamasoncampus.org/#!From-the-River-to-the-Sea/cjds/2 add this please --Dorpwnz (talk) 09:20, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
Hi i wanted to add to you they say it's the palestinian national airport http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-4633998,00.html [the pa] Take a look how they promote their tourism it's also written in the article . translation from the press : הדוכן הפלסטיני, הנמצא דרך קבע ביריד, הציג את היעדים הבולטים בפלסטין, אליהם תוכלו להגיע דרך שדה התעופה הפלסטיני, בן גוריון: בית שאן, נחל הבניאס, נחל דן, הר הזיתים בירושלים ועוד. מבולבלים? גם אנחנו. כן, היעדים שהפלסטינים הוצגו בחלקם הגדול נמצאים בטריטוריה ישראלית שאין עליה עוררין, אבל אם זה יביא תיירים לישראל, מי אנחנו שנתלונן. the palestinian stand , which is permanantly placed in the fair , displays the prominent destination in palestine,which you can go to via the palestinian aiorport,Ben Gurion . Beit Shaan,Banias stream, Dan stream,olives mountain in jerusalem and more. confused ? we too. yes,the palestinian destinations that were displayed in their major part are in an israeli terrritory without doubt , but if it will bring tourists to israel , who are we to complain ? [humor] So you see ,they think they own the state of israel.
--Dorpwnz (talk) 09:32, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
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