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This template is a self-reference and so is part of the Wikipedia project rather than the encyclopedic content.
It is designed to allow new users to get help from more experiences editors.
Placing {{helpme}}
on a page automatically places it in Category:Wikipedians looking for help.
Also, a bot in the Boot Camp IRC channel monitors the category and notifies the IRC channel of any additions.--Commander Keane 08:03, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
Problem is, if you check what links here, the use of {{helpme}} is included too. How to tell the difference? The Minister of War (Peace) 12:47, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
I suggest that the layout is slightly changed to be less obtrusive and a reason for the parameter given.
I am looking for help!
why are you delating WebHat CMS while you keep http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sitecore ??? Please let me know.
regards
I agree with the guy above me to an extent.
Note to helpers: once you have offered help, please remove this template.
Comments? x42bn6 Talk 07:48, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
Should we add something about not using {{helpme}} for requests to be unblocked? Many of us who respond to helpme don't even have the ability to unblock. Then again, I suppose using {{helpme}} in conjunction with {{unblock}} can help some collateral-damage victims get the attention of an admin more quickly. --TantalumTelluride 00:37, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
Is it possible to design a self-referencing template like {{lawhelp}} so that the owner of the talkpage in which this template is added gets added to a page called Category:Wikpedians seeking legal help? If yes, then how? The purpose would be to help newbies who do not know the complex laws of the Wikipedia and are being bullied by old users (including admins). ♔BADMIN♛ (आओ✍) 08:28, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
...I added a warning tag to this template. When putting this template on non user talk pages, a warning tag will appear. Anyone opposes to this idea? AQu01rius (User • Talk) 01:08, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
I've removed the
Ask your question by typing {{helpme|question here}}.
part. Most who use this template don't actually do that. They type heaps and heaps underneath the template. For the ones that only do write a short bit, it makes it easier for the helpers to replace the {{helpme}} with {{subst:tl|helpme}}. If they've got text as a parameter it makes it {{helpme|How do I make text bold?}}, which can't be changed to {{subst:tl|helpme|How do I make text bold?}}, because it only has one parameter, the template name. . Of course we could just copy and paste it below, or just delete it, and leave it in the page history, but it seems the easiest option, not to encourage users to use the parameter, for the sake of ease of use :)
— Deon555talkdesksign here! 22:29, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Why did it get changed to say: "Note to helpers: once you have offered help, please replace this template with {{tnull|helpme}}", when it used to say: Note to helpers: once you have offered help, please revove this template"? Nocturnal Wanderer Sign here! 21:13, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
I added this here once before, I'm not sure where it went:
Code | Result | |||
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{{User:UBX/helpme}} |
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Usage |
Why is this restricted to the user talk namespace? Although it's nice when people put it in the right space, it makes more sense to answer helpmes wherever they may be, rather than confuse new users trying to get it right. What's more hassle: removing a helpme from the wrong namespace and asking the question anyway, or cleaning up after a new user who's botched trying to put the helpme in the right place, and simultaneously tracking down what happened to the question? --ais523 18:09, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
I am looking for help! Ask your question below. You can look at the Help Contents, ask at the Help desk, or search the FAQ. |
Feel free to mod. I was thinking of making it switch to use an exclamation point and the Speedy type if its not on a User talk page. ViperSnake151 20:53, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
I am looking for help! Ask your question below. You can look at the Help Contents, ask at the Help desk, or search the FAQ. Users on the #wikipedia-en-help IRC channel have been alerted and will assist you shortly. |
I am looking for help! Ask your question below. You can look at the Help Contents, ask at the Help desk, or search the FAQ. Users on the #wikipedia-en-help IRC channel have been alerted and will assist you shortly. |
{{helpme}}
we can just add done to the template and it formats nicely. So if they create a help me tag with: {{helpme|How do I get unblocked?}} and you add done to the begining it will display like this:
How do I get unblocked
GtstrickyTalk or C 14:17, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
I am looking for help! Ask your question below. You can look at the Help Contents, ask at the Help desk, or search the FAQ. Users on the #wikipedia-en-help IRC channel have been alerted and will assist you shortly. Helpers click here for directions |
Just added a helpers info line. I am not sure if it is needed or not. GtstrickyTalk or C 14:32, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
I am looking for help! Ask your question below. You can look at the Help Contents, ask at the Help desk, or search the FAQ. Users on the #wikipedia-en-help IRC channel have been alerted and will assist you shortly. |
{{tl|helpme}}
instead of {{tlnull|helpme}}
to disable the template, since {{tl}} is simply shorter and nicer to use.I have now updated this template based on all the discussions above. Here are the changes and fixes I have done:
1: Made it use the standardised brown talk-page style, by using the {{tmbox}} meta-template. And I used the big yellow question mark image suggested above. The 60px image size is larger than the talk page message box guideline allows, but I think we can allow this template to be an exception.
2: It now uses the new message text and text styles suggested above.
3: I kept the recommendation to use {{tlx|helpme}}
to disable the template, since that is what we recommend for other templates such as {{editprotected}}
. And we can not use {{tl}} if the user have added the question as a parameter to the template, while {{tlx}}
can handle parameters. (You can of course use {{tl}} if there is no parameter. If there is a parameter and you prefer the more compact normal text style then you can use {{tlp}}. Or if you don't want to link the template you can use {{tlnull}}
or {{tlf}}, but I think not linking the template is a bit evil. The options are endless... :)
3: It now always categorises into Category:Wikipedians looking for help, no matter on what kind of page, so we can find all usage and answer. Previously it only categorised when on "User talk:" pages.
4: Minor detail: I added standard "category=" suppression, so we can make it not categorise when testing and demonstrating the template. That is, {{helpme|category=}}
won't categorise.
5: It now always shows the whole box, even when placed on the wrong kind of pages. And instead of the old big scary red warning message it now shows a softer and nicer warning message that says "This template should only be used on talk pages". You know, don't bite the newcomers etc. This is also a change from before when it only could be used on user talk pages. Now it can be used on any talk page, since I think it can be good to be able to ask a question on the talk page of the page the question concerns. That means the answer is there for future reference for others that work with that page. See also the discussion above about this.
6: For backwards compatibility it still can take the question text as a parameter. (I even saw a user do that today, it must be mentioned on some help page somewhere.) But now this template renders the question text below the brown message box instead of inside it.
And I of course tested it all in this template's /sandbox and /testcases pages before I deployed it.
--David Göthberg (talk) 20:10, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
I am planning to rework the code and documentation of {{adminhelp}} so it works like {{helpme}}. I won't do much changes to the text content of it, since I already like the text. But I think it should have a softer error message when used on the "wrong" pages. And it should always categorise, so we can find all cases even when used on the wrong pages. See the list of fixes I did to {{helpme}} in the section above.
--David Göthberg (talk) 16:10, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
{{tlx}}
instead of {{tlnull}}
, since {{tlx}}
gives a link to the template which means the user can later go there to find links to more help, or learn more about the template.{{adminhelp}}
The current wording of the {{adminhelp}} template suggests it pings IRC when placed on user talk pages. Is this, in fact, the case? If so, it should ping the admin channels rather than the regular one. If I recall correctly, the reason Category:Wikipedians looking for help from administrators is not a subcat of Category:Wikipedians looking for help is because that would have caused requests in the former category to ping IRC like the latter, which was deemed problematic. Skomorokh 08:36, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
Currently, the wording of the {{adminhelp}} template header is:
Personally, I think that sounds a little abrupt – what about a change to something like:
How about put a link to the Wikipedia help channel using webchat freenode? --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) Changing the world one edit at a time! 09:22, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
Why must answerers replace the {{helpme}} code with {{tlp|helpme}} instead of {{tl|helpme}}? I know it wouldn't save much time, but is there an actual function between either? (Since I seem to attract "you're-a-noob-answers," I'm looking for the difference between the two, not what either one does.) Thanks. – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies 02:43, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
Speaking with Chzz and some other users in the IRC, we talked about letting the person requesting help to show how skilled they are with wikipedia and wikicode. this can be useful for beginers because when i ask for help, i sometimes get answers which i do not understand and are far to advanced for me. thats why i made {{User:Sophie/sandbox10}} as a pre design. instructions can be found on user:sophie/sandbox9. the "1", "2", "3"... are taken from the babel idea but after a review from chzz, this could be changed to B (beginer) M (moderate) A (advanced). the default option would be the beginer option as a new commer would not know how to change the options and because not all helpers assume that the person who needs help is a beginner based on how long they have been on Wikipedia. Please let me know what you think
Sophie (Talk) 08:05, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
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The current template uses a link "irc://irc.freenode.net/wikipedia-en-help", in Firefox irc://* requests are handled by a site call Mibbit, and Firefox changes the link to "https://www.mibbit.com/?url=irc%3A%2F%2Firc.freenode.net%2Fwikipedia-en-help", Firefox seems to be unsupported as it hangs "Loading..."!
Please change the template link to: "http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=wikipedia-en-help", to allow more compatibility as some browsers don't use the irc:// protocol well but all browsers are able to understand http:// requests. —Preceding unsigned comment added by R12056 (talk • contribs)
The or [[tools:~tangotango/nubio/|search the FAQ]]
section of this template needs to either be removed or updated, since that user's account has apparently expired. Could someone please oblige? Frank Westerton (talk) 09:40, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
I'm concerned that by directing editors to the help channel via the {{Adminhelp}} template they will get the idea that they can request page protection and other admin actions through IRC instead, bypassing normal WP:RFPP process. This is not good, the #wikipedia-en-help channel should be for non-administrative help only, everything else that requires admin action should follow process, whether it be WP:ANI, WP:AN3, WP:RFPP, etc. -- Ϫ 19:01, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
Sorry, forgot to mention, this pertains to {{Adminhelp}} only. Its talk page redirected me here. -- Ϫ 19:08, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
Okay, I suppose it depends on the personal preference of the administrator that happens to be in the channel, whether they should choose to take admin actions is to their discretion. Personally, when I'm helping users in #wikipedia-en-help, I'm not acting in my admin capacity, my function there is to direct users to the correct process, I *am* there as a teacher. I will not use the admin tools to take personal requests or 'favors' from users off-wiki, where it may be taken as a unilateral action by other users on-wiki, and then I'm accused of being part of some corrupt cabal network. It's better to follow due process and let these requests occur on-wiki where they can be reviewed by the community. Of course if someone tells me on IRC that a user is doing mass pagemove vandalism then I won't hesitate to act, it's for the good of the project, but if a user specifically seeks me out on irc because I'm an admin to ask me to protect an article they've been editing because there's some editwar or somethingrather going on, I see that as being analogous to coming up to an off-duty janitor sitting in a pub somewhere chitchatting with colleagues, and asking him, just because he happens to be a janitor, to come and cleanup a mess they found in the pub's washroom. Or calling up your buddy who happens to be a cop, to come and arrest some guy, instead of dialing 911. meta:IRC/wikipedia-en-admins/Guidelines reads that IRC is not an "alternative to on-wiki debate, and is not intended as a shortcut", I see that as good advice. -- Ϫ 12:21, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was move per request.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:00, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
The above template is incapable of properly displaying the name of the template to which this discussion relates. See the following for the actual proposal. Template:Adminhelp → Template:Admin help — Proper spelling with spaces in it. On this talk page, because Adminhelp's talk page redirects here. --The Evil IP address (talk) 17:43, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Hi
Strange fact finding mission I know, but would the {{adminhelp}} template work on a non talk page? or is there another one that can be used in pages that are not talk pages? (and not in mainspace)
I would like to investigate a way of getting admin help quickly to project users and it seems a brilliant way to do it if it is possible.
Obviously this is only a request for info :¬)
Thanks Chaosdruid (talk) 05:38, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
Should there be a maintenance category for when this template is used on non-talk pages? I just found one by accident on a userpage and saw there's no tracking category for this. I think adding this template to the userpage instead of the talk page could be a common occurrence among new users. For instance, there are ten transclusions on user pages as of this writing, including a few blank requests. Not a big deal (most people will just read the box and move it themselves), but thought I'd mention it. — Bility (talk) 20:36, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
I meant to post this at the Talk page for {{admin help}}, but it appears that that redirects to here, which is a little strange, but I'll assume there's good reason for it.
In any event, I recently posted an {{admin help}} request to my Talk page due to a brewing conflict on a Wikiproject's Talk page. I was hoping to get an admin to at least look over the situation, without the formality and possible drama of an ANI filing.
Unfortunately over 12 hours later I still had not received a response to my adminhelp request and said conflict had indeed grown worse. At that point I filed an ANI request to discuss whether the template is an effective tool, and if not whether it can be made effective. That discussion got a bit sidetracked, but the bulk of the material relevant to this thread is available here. One admin stated that not receiving a response within 12 hours is not significant, another stated that they ignore such requests, while a third stated their opinion that the template is too generic; as requests are not categorized there's no way to know upfront whether the help needed will be in a field that the admin considers themselves well-suited to address.
The text provided when an editor invokes the template is as follows- "I am looking for help from an administrator! Ask your question below. If a response is not swiftly forthcoming, or if you require input from multiple administrators, you may wish to raise the matter at the administrators' noticeboard for incidents. If you do not require help from administrators specifically, it is best to use the template {{help me}} instead of this one. The IRC channel #wikipedia-en-help is notified when this template is used. You can join that channel (chat room) if you want to get real-time assistance or if you want to help out. (Click here for instant access.)"
To my mind, this suggests that a response should, generally, be "swiftly forthcoming". When an editor has to wait over 12 hours for an acknowledgement, I do not think "swiftly forthcoming" is the appropriate description. It was suggested that if editors really do wish for a swift response to an issue that they should file an ANI request. If that is the case then I would submit that the text of the template should be modified to make it clear that that is considered the best practice at this time.
As far as concerns that the template is too "generic", I was wondering how others would feel about creating additional templates that would request help with a clear indication of what type of help is needed. Perhaps {{adminhelpcivil}}, {{adminhelpcopyvio}} and other templates as appropriate, with use of the standard template suggesting that editors might wish to use one of the more specific templates instead?
I greatly appreciate any feedback other editors might have. Doniago (talk) 14:47, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
Well, nothing apparently came of this discussion. Would anyone object to my coming up with a proposal for alternate wording? Doniago (talk) 12:27, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
Current Text: Ask your question below. If a response is not swiftly forthcoming, or if you require input from multiple administrators, you may wish to raise the matter at the administrators' noticeboard for incidents. If you do not require help from administrators specifically, it is best to use the template {{help me}} instead of this one.
Change To: Ask your question below. If you feel your request requires immediate attention, or if you require input from multiple administrators, you may wish to raise the matter at the administrators' noticeboard for incidents. If you do not require help from administrators specifically, it is best to use the template {{help me}} instead of this one.
Some newbies or IP editors add there admin help request at Template:Admin help/doc and these requests go unnoticed sometimes for days. Any thoughts to resolve this? --SMS Talk 15:05, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
Could someone make this work on the Romanian wikipedia as well? Căluşaru' (talk) 13:13, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
Is it just me that this looks incorrect to?
Users who monitor the category this places and those on
Shouldn't this read
Users who monitor the category this places a notice on and those on
Geremy Hebert (talk | contribs) 14:16, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
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Disabling as it isn't clear there's consensus to change the wording; it would be more technically correct, but at the cost of a perhaps pernickety wordiness. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 13:34, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
Should there be added a link to the Teahouse on this template? -- Ypnypn (talk) 04:12, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
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Yes, I believe there should be as most of the related templates ({{Help me-na}}, {{Help me-nq}}, and {{Help me-helped}} have links to the Teahouse and {{Help me-inappropriate}} and {{Help me-working}} don't have links to the Teahouse (of which most also had links to WP:NCHD which has been merged into the Teahouse and I cleaned up those links). Thank you Technical 13 (talk) 13:20, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
Disabling for now: please add appropriate code to the sandbox and get consensus for it before re-enabling. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 13:44, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
Update: {{Help me-na}}, {{Help me-nq}}, {{Help me-helped}}, and {{Help me-inappropriate}} all have links to the Teahouse now. Only "working" does not as if it is already being resolved, no need to go someplace else and ask for help again. Technical 13 (talk) 14:22, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
I'm wondering if the {{Admin help}} template should have a set of sub-templates like {{Help me-nq}}, {{Help me-inappropriate}}, etc. For example, I just fielded Talk:Richard Engel which had three {{Admin help}} on it that should have been {{Edit semi-protected}} requests. I would have liked to have tagged it as {{Admin help-inappropriate}} which would have explained that not everything needs an admin... I am willing to make said templates, but I am requesting assistance from some administrators on what the wording should be. Thanks. Technical 13 (talk) 13:05, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
Rather than changing to {{tlp|Help me}}, I think making the template collapsible would be better. When a question is answered, set the default class to collapsed. By default, it would be uncollapsed.
Curiouscrab0 | talk | contribs |
21:16, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
Wouldn't it make more sense just to post a question on the CP, Teahouse, or Help desk? Or is this for getting almost immediate responses?
Curiouscrab0 | talk | contribs |
21:24, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
Someone familiar with this series please check and attempt to repair the condition that leads to this sort of layout problem Special:PermanentLink/626032150. Thank you — xaosflux Talk 03:09, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
<dd>
and <dl>
tags after transcluding a template containing a table. I suppose that the template could be entirely reworked to not use a table and instead use styled divs regardless if that would actually fix the issue or not, but I don't have the time to do that. — {{U|Technical 13}} (e • t • c) 10:54, 18 September 2014 (UTC):::::::
and then the rest of the page disrupted. — xaosflux Talk 19:29, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
It might be useful if this template included a link to CAT:AH? --82.136.210.153 (talk) 04:04, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
Is this template to be used only on user talk pages? I asked because of this - - and if it's true, the template documentation ought to be updated, I suppose. Lightbreather (talk) 21:01, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
{{U|Technical 13}} (e • t • c)
21:08, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
I routinely see {{admin help}} in places where {{help me}} would be more appropriate. Especially new users, I believe they think it's better to illicit the help of an administrator rather than a regular editor -- when this is sometimes the opposite case. Administrator on Wikipedia means something different than it does on other websites or with corporate companies. For questions that anyone could answer, help me should be the preferred template as there are much fewer administrators around. I would like to propose adding verbiage into the documentation for admin help to state that it should be used in situations whereby only an administrator could help. I think this is already the common understanding but having it in the documentation would help those being declined for admin help to see that the decision is supported by the documentation. Mkdwtalk 17:38, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
This request for help from administrators has been answered. If you need more help or have additional questions, please reapply the {{admin help}} template, or contact the responding user(s) directly on their own user talk page. |
Hello. I have some deep concerns regarding the i for that’s been very incorrectly cut and pasted together to create the page “Ahluwalia”
I have read numerous books and and fully knowledgeable in the history of the surname and it’s founders
I feel the page above has been cut and pasted together with a malicious intent which I would like fixed.
Any attempt to change has been taken as vandalism: which it is not.
So much in the page is priced together and incorrect:
Example: Sadha SINGH is listed as the founder of the ahluwalia misl- he was long dead before the misla were even created in the Sikh military system under Maharaja RANJIT SINGH and Jassa SINGH Ahluwalia (Sadha Singh’s son)
Maharani Amrit Kaur was NOT Gandhi’s secretary but the only female fighter who renounced her royal status to fight for Indian independence- and she was also the first female cabinet minister in India’s history post independence.
AHLUWALIAs ARE NOT a lower caste by any means and had royal status from late 1700s until partition.
Much of the info on the page currently is very misleading and I feel been placed with malicious intent
As a reference I would suggest the Kapurthala Online resource portal which accurately explains the full history and lineage of the AHLUWALIAs
Please help on how I can have this info fixed.
Signed:
Walia SS (talk) 09:37, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
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