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This is an archived talk page. If you want to comment further on something in it, I'll happily move (or copy) the old conversation from the archive to my current talk page.
Also how do I go about creating an Arcive for my talk page? I hope to be stepping up my Contributions into the Australian currency Article, as I posses a vast amoun of images that I want to contribute to that and related articles.
Thanks again, User:Dfrg.msc
Due to my inability to Fix my signature, I must ask help from you. Please! I buggered it up beyond recogniton!
I want it to be this: [User:Dfrg.msc|User:Dfrg.msc] [Image:DFRG. MSC.jpg|45px] (Exept with double ]['s) and a date and time.
What it is: [[ User:Dfrg.msc | User:Dfrg.msc [[ Image:DFRG. MSC.jpg | 45px ]]]] 07:49, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
I enter it into the My preferences box and save it. When I type my signature (~~ ~~) it just adds all the dashes ect.
Please help.
My signature is broken so follow the link. User talk:Dfrg.msc
Under which speedy criteria did you delete Template:User WP Anime? I just checked the speedy criteria list again, and I don't see "passe" anywhere on that page. If you intend to claim it was divisive and inflammatory, you're definitely going to have your work cut out for you, as the original read simply "This user is a member of Wikipedia:WikiProject Anime and Manga". --tjstrf 20:07, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
Hello, I am a member of a research group at Palo Alto Research Center (formerly known as Xerox PARC) studying how conflicts occur and resolve on Wikipedia. Due to your experience in conflict resolution on Wikipedia (e.g., as a member of the Mediation Cabal) we’re extremely interested in your insights on this topic. We have a survey at http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.asp?u=400792384029 which we are inviting a few selected Wikipedians to participate in, and we would be extremely appreciative if you would take the time to complete it. As a token of our gratitude, we would like to present you with a PARC research star upon completion. Thank you for your time.
Parc wiki researcher 00:02, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
PARC User Interface Research Group
I deleted all but what I feel is necessary for my page.
Where could I go to do edits.
Also could you walk me through a few until I get the hang of it?
ARRbitration Enforcement -Fixed
There are a few things overlapping each other.
--Qho 19:25, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
...to Cavendish, Suffolk!!
Go and check the history.
(trimmed, see history with revision immediately before JOHNNY_LEE_TRIM as edit summary)
Thanks for your opinions in my RfA. Ultimately, the request did not pass, with a vote of (43/16/7). But your honest opinion was appreciated and I'll just keep right on doing what I do. Maybe I'll see ya around -- I'll be here!
Cheers! - CheNuevara 17:45, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Sorry I found it at someones user page while looking for something else and thought it would be interesting. I was going to take it down after dinner but you did it, Thanks, I am not an Interface hacker
This user appears to be pretty young and has been struggling lately - so I think the comments you made re putting a practical joke on their home page could have been done without so much biting. Especially since there are over 60 users who have the same thing on their pages - see List of links to practical joke page nearly all that I checked from the user space were the same kind of simulation of the system message. --Trödel 03:07, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
I can't believe I responded to a forum post by this twit; I should have recognized the style. Good catch! --Doc Tropics Message in a bottle 19:43, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
Hello Improv! How has it been? Just a question, how do I get Quotes (quote marks) to work? I have tried and failed and my user page bears testimony. Thanks Improv, User:Dfrg.msc User talk:Dfrg.msc 08:18, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Both featured articles by the end of the year.
Much work lies ahead! User:Dfrg.msc User talk:Dfrg.msc 08:36, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
“ | testing cquotes | ” |
Hi Pat, I'm glad to see you're running for the current board elections. I have some questions that I think would be good to know - please answer (or ignore) them as you see fit. Thanks. Cormaggio @ 11:11, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Lambs are not carniverous so why would it eat her out of spite? Wiki assassin 08:08, 3 August 2006 (UTC) PS i am new here and why didnt anyone from the wikipeda welecoming party welcome me?
Perhaps you would like to help mediate a dispute regarding Democracy (disambiguation). If not, that is perfectly OK. If yes, your help would be appreciated. The dispute involves a difficultly agreeing on how to decide which criteria to use to determine which democracy related articles need to be disambiguated. BruceHallman 15:47, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the invite. I'm not attending, though, as I have to stay put here in Florida. Have a good trip, 172 | Talk 01:33, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
What has four legs, is big, green, fuzzy, and if it fell out a tree on you, would kill you?
A pool table [punchline] tity boom [/punchline]. Err.
Anyway, Yo Bro! Hey, are album covers free use images? Can they be use on pages or in userboxes? Thanks, Dfrg.msc 09:17, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
I found a picture of one on Flickr while looking at wikimania pictures . They were here and there, all over the campus. Yeah, silly message, but thought you might be interested. --Ericj 17:12, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi there... I am having a non-content dispute with another user and have investigated the process at the cabal. I have requested an informal mediation, called it under my name Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-08-09 Gay Cdn. In looking at the list of participants, you indicate you live non-content disputes. I appreciate any assistance you can provide. Thanks.--Gay Cdn (talk) (email) (Contr.) 01:47, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
I am more than willing to abide by any form of mediation. For clarification purposes, the issue here is more specifically the possibly rude and hasty request to delete a list created, initially with only one entry, the day before. I also acknowledge that, in my trying to juggle too many screens at once, a response I had written to the above poster seems not to have been saved by me, in favor of posting a project banner. Please see the talk page of the above poster, my own, and the AfD entry for List of people from San Francisco for developments to date. Badbilltucker 12:48, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your revison of my statement. It's nice. I'll be less ridiculous :) Arno Lagrange ✉ 02:01, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
Hello my friend! Two things, how do I look over my and other's contributions. People have been doing it to me for ages and I'm curious. How can you see how many edit's yov'e made? Do you have to count manually? Also I made my first userbox: What do you think my friend?
Thanks, Dfrg.msc 10:10, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
This user's Hovercraft is full of Eels Is Yours? |
Hi Improv, You were right that my previous thing was too much as “essay”, and one of the Seattle-area dancers who responded to my contribution pointed out that it was phrased too negatively (that's now fixed). However, as for “stop adding the essay to the contra dance article”, I can’t agree to that request, because...
Several Seattle-area contra dancers agree with me that the existing page was too "technical" and should describe *why* we contra, not just *how*. The beginning of the page should address people who have never contra danced before and are looking at the page to find out whether they would be interested in doing it. Therefore, the opening paragraphs should:
1. Emphasize the most important thing about contra -- fun!
2. Describe the “flavor” of contra, and
3. Distinguish contra from other dance forms, so people who have never danced will say (we hope) “Hey, That sounds much easier and potentially more fun than other dances.”
The contra scene is supposed to be inclusive, welcoming, fun, and lighthearted, so the opening paragraphs should convey that in both tone and word choices. The word “fun” did not appear on the page previously.
Many people, especially men, are loath to try dancing, mostly because they are afraid of looking/feeling foolish, being snickered at, and the agonizing sense that they aren’t doing the dance well enough. Therefore, the opening paragraphs should emphasize that contra is a mistake-ridden activity and an easygoing scene that non-judgmentally welcomes everybody and is forgiving and non-competitive.
In sum, without the Overview section, the contra page “missed the point” of contra.
Minor editing matter: the incorrect uses of “comprise” have been corrected. The whole *comprises* the parts, whereas the parts compose the whole; thus, the phrase “comprised of” is *always* incorrect. The mnemonic is “Fifty states compose the Union. The Union comprises 50 states.
Matti matti.mero@speakeasy.net
Hi Improv, I think the page misses the most important thing about contra and is therefore importantly incomplete, as well as boring. I disagree that an encyclopedia should not discuss the objectives or social scene of an activity -- which is at least half the deal with contra. What harm is done by my contribution? Is it not an accurate description of important dimensions of contra? Why does the contra page -- or Wiki overall -- have to be strictly limited to the "engineer's point of view", full of only boring technicalities and with nothing about why someone would want to contra? Don't you think that's a bit narrow-minded? Matti Mero
Hi Improv, Please point out exactly what about my contribution "advocates". I see nothing in it that does. Further, is anything about it incorrect? Even were there anything it that that could be considered advocacy, thousands of Wiki pages could be taken as advocacy. Unless you can give me a convincing argument that the contra page shouldn’t have an overview section, I will persist in adding one. Your overarching argument is that, by your narrow criteria, my contribution is inappropriate for an encyclopedia article. By that reasoning, I would be fully justified in going through the existing article and deleting everything I think inappropriate -- regardless of whether it was accurate or on topic. A lot of the existing contra page is pointless irrelevant minutiae that could substantially mislead people about the overall nature of contra, because it is ridiculously technical and gives the very incorrect impression that’s contra is all about this set of moves and how they’re done. My contribution to the page gives a realistic impression of what contra is really about: a welcoming group activity for community fun. That's not "advocacy"; it's a fact. My Wiki editing policy is, unless it’s incorrect or offensive or very off-topic, I just leave it, because somebody cared enough to include it and thinks it’s worthwhile. By contrast, you have bought into a bizarrely narrow interpretation of what’s ok in a Wiki page, and yet you seem to think that all the boring, useless, and potentially misleading minutiae on the existing contra page is ok. Perhaps you have more information or ideas to share that might convince me that Wiki content should be very narrowly constrained and provide nothing but “engineering-level” details? Unless you do, I can’t buy your argument. Thanks for reading. Matti Mero Seattle
A portal created recently by Mallimak (talk · contribs) - the Orkney Portal - has been nominated for deletion. If you wish to take part in the discussion please contribute at:
Thanks. --Mais oui! 08:58, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Can unimportant non-admin vote on RFA? or are we to unimportant?
PS Do you have any pet dogs?
Thanks Mate! I will definatley be lending my camera to the Wikipedia cause, though I am on dial-up uploading is a bit of a hastle; I will look into resizing in the future. You would be amazed at the ordinary things that have little or no images.
A new picure I see! What is with the Santa hat draped dejectedly in the background? I got a new picture too.
I think perhaps you should just come clean and use a photo of yourself without the human in it. ; ) Jkbaum 16:55, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
Do you have any dogs?
Everybody has a mental list, in the back of their minds, of "Wikipedias whose opinions I value". Your name got on mine somehow, and though I'm not sure how, somehow it did.
So, when you popped up saying Embrace Weasel Words is bad advice, I thought I'd ask ya about it. I don't much care about the deletion vote going on-- I put the essay in the Wikipedia space just to signal a willingness for others to add to it if they so chose-- if the user space is more appropriate, that's cool.
What does concern me is that it might be bad advice, and that I don't want. So, let me ask you-- is it just the Title that you find bad? That blatantly contradicting Avoid weasel words sends the wrong message? or is it the actual advice of cases where I think weasel words are good sometimes? --Alecmconroy 13:17, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Could someone check the original source of this for copyright violation? I have an intuition that it may have been copied from either the book it references or from some other website. --Improv 17:41, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
My userpage got messed up! Thanxs for the pointer. =D Jumping cheese Contact 21:17, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
You might want to consider altering your statement--MyWikiBiz was unblocked by Jimbo himself after a private conversation in which certain agreements were made. This creates an obvious problem should any "ordinary" admin feel a permanent block is appropriate. Thatcher131 (talk) 16:56, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
Hello Image-master (I mean Improv)! I've some digital photo's of Lego figures that I wish to upload onto Wikipedia, is that fine? Which liscence shold I use? Any other things? Thanks Bro, Dfrg.msc User talk:Dfrg.msc 06:40, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
You should renovate your house. You can double the value.
Ps can i have your santa hat?
culverin 10:27, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
Please, look at argumentations on: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages#Belarusian_.28Orthography_Revision_of_1959.29_.2819_support_.2F_13_oppose.29 Please, change your mind on the question. It's not the way Chinese encyclopedia works! The "neoclassic" "belarusian" language doesn't even have the written GRAMMATICS! On be.wiki.org they write "as they want", and almost all the Belarusians doesn't understand their "lang" cause it's NOT what Belarusian people study at school. That why the Be-community is SO SMALL. BooXteR.
Meeting house for The White Delight group you speedied. I've prodded it, but it might be speediable as well. exolon 18:57, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
Hey! I'm RyanGerbil10, a sysop and freshman at Pitt. I guess we're the only two sysops in Pittsburgh, right? I think it's quite a strange coincidence. RyanGerbil10(Kick 'em in the dishpan!) 19:00, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi! You've previously deleted the page and I agree with your decision. For some reason, the author has put the page back. I've tagged it for speedy deletion again. Hope you can help resolve this conflict. Thanks! Zephyr2k 19:16, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
Hello there Improv, I am the creator of the little-known Random act of kindness project. I will give an hour of my time to any task on Wikipedia that you choose. What do you want me to do? Bear in mind that I have no sysop powers and limited credibilty on this project. --Dangherous 19:08, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
I don't see the need to prod both of those articles; Blue Hell has been around for months, and I made the list to clear up the article. So why now all of a sudden you feel a need to have it prodded? SoaP 20:05, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
I think you jumped the gun on deleting this article, but if it really needs deletion, go right ahead. RPellessier | Talk 20:31, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
Copy and pasting most because I just got off work and am tired :-/ "SRQ Racing is an automotive community with a long history (as long or longer than SRQ Magazine, but with less attractive women) in the Sarasota area... perhaps if I added more history the page wouldnt get deleted. It doent fall under wiki's rejection policies AFIK, since it isnt a company or any other for-profit entity using wiki for commercial purposes. --Jgregg 19:00, 1 September 2006 (UTC)"
"The page was deleted because it didn't demonstrate notability. Simply because the group exists is not a basis for inclusion; not all human life is here. What you need to establish is what is special about the group, decribe what it does and who/how many are members etc. In other words why it should be in an encyclopaedia which has to be more than simply being long established. If you work up a new draft at User:Jgregg/Sandbox I should be happy to comment on it. HTH. TerriersFan 19:14, 1 September 2006 (UTC)"
"Did you even read it? We have 50 members and are the only car organization that allows import cars in this smallish town. And to top it off, we have some of the most unique cars as well. One of my cars is a Geo Storm converted to AWD turbo, we also have a 78 240zx that runs 11s, a few rare AWD mitsu galants, one too fast turbo supra, a turbo 350zx, the list goes on. I was going to add these things to the page as I had time, but how is that going to happen if its deleted every day. Is there some Wiki god I have to pray too? Where is my friend Garreth F. from F.I.T. when you need him :-)Jgregg 23:52, 1 September 2006 (UTC)"
Are you the one I must pray too? I'm about ready to say screw it, I dont have the time and we been underground for so long it really doesnt matter. At least google lists us well. :) Anyways, thanks for your timeJgregg 00:21, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
Someone deleted my response to your anti-Domino (Kitler) edits. Just thought I would let you know that someone is working out there (besides you) to stifle free speech.Jimjonesoo5 17:54, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, if you don't want me to do that, I'll try to remember an exception in your case. This was a vandal who took your image and photoshopped it to say "I'm a fag", vandalized your userpage with it (at least twice); in fact as of this writing it's vandalized again, so I'll leave it. I typically just rollback every edit of these people and block them; looking at every edit takes a lot of time, but if you want your user talk page left alone, OK. Cheers, Antandrus (talk) 18:55, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
See Talk:Andrew Wilson (theologian)#Undeletion. --maru (talk) contribs 19:25, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
Thanx 4 bein cool. Domino luvs you now (pur pur) but how old do I have to be b4 i can move pages?04:43, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
Just wanted to check in to say Hello & stuff. Was wondering about the elections and whatnot ... Jkbaum 09:06, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
Thanks, Improv, for your support at my RfA, which finished with a tally of 94/1/0. I hope I live up to the confidence you have shown in me in my activities as an administrator. JPD (talk) 16:01, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
I'm thinking about setting up a Wikimeet in Pittsburgh, and since it appears that you currently live (and work) in Pittsburgh, you may want to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Meetup/Pittsburgh and/or its talk page. So far, a total of 3 people have already shown interest, and our initial goal is bring that up to at least 5 people. (Note: If for any reason you do not wish to participate, simply ignore this message.) Scobell302 23:46, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
This was rather hurtful. I'm a legit editor. Why is it garbage for me to have a vandalizm page? 69.145.123.171 Hello! Tuesday, September 5, 2006, 23:49 (UTC)
A vandalizm section that has absolutely nothing in it and is prevented from being recreated? I dunno why, but I like it. 69.145.123.171 Hello! Thursday, September 7, 2006, 02:10 (UTC)
I'm cool with the Denise Paolucci article being deleted. It was reviewed fairly and people talked about it and that's all I asked for. I just wanted to state for the record that I did attempt to discuss keeping the article on the associated talk page, but that during my first attempts to create it, the discussion was ignored, and that after the last speedy deletion, the person who killed the article also speedy deleted the talk page, so my commentary was gone. Anyway, thank you for listening and considering. TheQuandry 17:05, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
Please explain your edits to {{tl:Schools in jurisdiction}}. It is used in jurisdictions with articles in the relevant categories (e.g. elem, middle, and high school). You may not like the existance of those articles, but that's a debate to be held elsewhere. As long as we have certain types of articles, we should have a convenient means of navigation. You're edit rendered a navigation template useless, since you left only one link behind. What conceiveable utility is a template? You'ld apparently have a link from high school categories back to the same high school category (which Wiki Software automatically disables, and shows as a bold text). --Rob 00:47, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
If it's yellow, let it mellow; if it's brown, flush it down. I couldn't find a article about this subjecct, so I was wondering if it would be appropraite to make it, or if information should be in cluded in anothr article. Basicly, it would be an article about the unwasting of water and yellow that stands for urine and the brown that stands for the feces and the flush the toilet, and you can save water by not flushing the diluted urine and save water but the feces you should flush because it stinks and it is a fun way to remember, but you should flush the yellow after a day at least cause otherwise, it's just gross. Thanks.Kitler005 04:44, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
Hey Improv! I've missed you mate! I trust you have been well? I have been involved in some "unpleasantness" of late, but going pretty well otherwise. Anyway, I am here to ask you about the SVG picture format. I recently uploaded a picture (Image:CapitalLambda.jpg) and it got tagged with this:
This image was uploaded in a raster image format such as PNG, GIF, or JPEG. However, it contains information that could be stored more efficiently and/or accurately in the SVG format, as a vector graphic. If possible, please upload an SVG version of this image. After doing so, please replace all instances of the previous version throughout Wikipedia (noted under the “File links” header), tag the old version with {{Vector version available|NewImage.svg}} , and remove this tag. For more information, see Wikipedia:Preparing images for upload. For assistance with converting to SVG, please see the Graphics Lab. |
Right. So I set about trying to convert it to SVG, by opening it with Macromedia fireworks and Paint Shop Pro respectively and trying to save as file type SVG - to no avail, SVG is not even listed in the dropdown save-as menu on either. What to do then, O Image Master?
Also, I am curious about Image modifycation. If an image is modified, is it still the same? Can it still be classified the same? How much modifycation is needed to make it into a new and seperate image? Is there perhaps a line, between an original and a new image? Appropreations are considered to be new - and they could be copyrighted (or not) freely.
Thankyou for your time Improv! Dfrg.msc 1 . 2 . 3 10:50, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
Hey dude, I just made a page at Pudding Pops but it is jus a stub now. I'm tryin tO work on making it longer but cnt find info bout the pudding pops too well. How cna ia tell other people 2 add stuff 2 it? neways, thanks again for helping me all the time. FRIENDS! Kitler005 16:53, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
Hey Improv, I've someone who is on parole and writing articles is'nt really his thing, but he does have a camera. Could you perhaps, give him some tips and avice before he starts? Your help would be greatly appreciated (as it always is). See User: Culverin.
Thanks Improv, Dfrg.msc 1 . 2 . 3 07:27, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
Are images allowed on episode list pages?? (Yugigx60 12:32, 2 October 2006 (UTC))
I see you deleted it. Could you also nuke the Nutter-Butter redirect to it? DMacks 16:30, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
Just saw that you deleted the Tim Tam page, why? Obviously not spam from the company in Australia... I discovered the cookie (biscuit, they call it) in Scotland at Worldcon, where it won a taste-off from all over the world... the wiki article was really useful, much more so than the product page, actually pointed out that they exist in the US under another name. Can you undelete something? Why don't you undelete it?
I deleted it as per the CSD criterion whereby articles that serve purely to advertise a product/company can be zapped. The article did nothing to make an encyclopedic claim for the product. Take care. --Improv 22:01, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I think you may have made a mistake here. Tim Tams are a major cultural icon in Australia, similar to Oreos in the USA. Not having an article on them is a serious lack in Wikipedia. Imagine if the article on Oreo was deleted. If the article as it stood read as a product advertisement, then it should have been edited or marked for cleanup, not deleted. -dmmaus 23:30, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
I've restored Tim Tam because I don't think it clearly meets the CSD criteria (no offense, Improv). I've accordingly listed it on AFD for further discussion, without any vote by me at this time: see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tim Tam. Postdlf 00:12, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
BTW, to illuminate where I'm coming from, I don't have a problem with the speedy deletion of Nutter Butter, based on the last edit to that article. Postdlf 00:13, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
I've looked further, and you're not removing the links to the pages that you're deleting. This is a pointless activity, as this simply means that they stand a good chance of being re-created. I'm asking you to stop deleting now, and not delete any more until you clean up the pages you've already done.
brenneman {L} 01:39, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
Deletion of Arnott's Biscuits Holdings is a mistake - Aronott's is one of the most iconic Australian businesses. It would be akin to deleting Coke Cola or McDonalds for an American. If Arnott's is non notable then Australia offers no business that is of note. Every Australian knows what Arnott's is and is one of our oldest and culturally iconic businesses. Please restore it, or bring it to VFD - UnlimitedAccess 05:41, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
Please see User:Postdlf/library; I think this might be something you'd be interested in helping to set up. Before I go "public" with this proposal, I think it needs some suggestion of how this can be implemented. I really don't have a concept of how the software side of this would work... It also needs some glowing rhetorical expression of why this would be a good thing, such as "the effective linking of the collective personal libraries of Wikipedians around the globe." Feel free to make any edits you see fit to that subpage. Cheers, Postdlf 17:05, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
I've restored List of Nestlé brands as it doesn't meet any speedy-deletion criterion and it seems to me like a useful page. It's not promotional material, it's a value-neutral list of products of one of the world's biggest and most controversial food companies. The list is potentially useful for doing research on Nestlé or, say, to boycott Nestlé. Your deletion also left some redlinks, a dangling redirect and a dangling interwiki link. Not a big deal but it's usually better to clean those up as you go.
I've spoken up for an advertisement CSD in the past and I'm happy that one has been formalized but I think care must be taken in implementing it. Borderline cases can be prodded or sent to AfD, which is unforgiving when it comes to promotional materials. Haukur 09:29, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
Can you restore the deleted text as a subpage of mine?--HQCentral 21:50, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
I fixed your page on Wikibooks... that's what you were trying to do, right? --SB_Johnny|talk|books 15:09, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
Howdy! I've made a post to VP related to a deletion you made and a new CSD that may need some work. Just an FYI. - CHAIRBOY (☎) 17:10, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
Improv, I think you've gone a bit overboard with your G11s. Can I request that you restore them, and if you still feel they're improper, AfD them? I think the idea that an article on Chips Ahoy!, for example, exists only to advertise the product is a bit much, and the product itself certainly meets basic critera. Thanks. --badlydrawnjeff talk 17:47, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
I've undeleted the page Curly Wurly as it does not meet the CSD criteria for blatant spam. If you feel I've made an error, I recommend putting it up for AFD or lobbying for a change to G11. Thanks. Turnstep 01:44, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
Two of the articles you speedy deleted that were restored per WP:DRV have been listed on AFD: Dynamic Images and Passion Pop. Cheers, Postdlf 14:35, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
Hey geek boy. I thought you were going to delete my user and talk pages and my account? Why is it still up? One thing you marxists are good at is silencing voices you don't like, so I am surprised you are having this much trouble. So do it right or don't do it at all. You idiots can't do anything right, look at how your buddy Kim Jong Il is doing with his nuke. Never trust a communist. I look forward to the deletion of my account. Cestusdei
Hello,
An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/GreekWarrior. Please add any evidence you may wish the arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/GreekWarrior/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/GreekWarrior/Workshop.
On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Arbitration Committee Clerk FloNight 19:06, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi there. Just a quick follow up to the discussion we have been having at the CSD talk page. You may have noticed the analysis I did of the recent batch of 'cookie' CSDs you performed. To avoid any misunderstanding, I just wanted to say that I fully support deletion of spamvertisements through G11. Where we seem to disagree is on what a spamvertisement is, and whether the whole "check talk page, page history, article log, what links here" thing is needed. As I say over at the analysis section, I hope the points I raise there, which I found after only a few clicks, help convince you that a little bit more investigation before deletion can help avoid problems, rather than be a waste of time. If you want any help in tracking down G11 CSDs, I'd be happy to use the tag to label them. Thanks. Carcharoth 13:49, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
Having just learned of this situation and read the various discussions, I'd just like to add my voice to the mob of people who believe that you misinterpreted/misapplied G11. Are you under the impression that the idea is to eliminate all articles pertaining to commerce? I can't think of another explanation for your deletion of Pepperidge Farm, Famous Amos, Arnott's Biscuits Holdings, Tim Tam, Hydrox, Chips Ahoy! and countless other articles. Do you honestly not realize that these brands are extremely famous and notable? I'm an American who's never been to Australia, and even I've heard of Arnott's and their Tim Tam biscuits!
I'm not sure why you started with cookie/candy-related articles, but given your insistence that you were right and everyone else is wrong, I'm seriously concerned that you intend to move on to other product categories. Will you be speedily deleting Coca-Cola, Pepsi and 7 Up next? I'm not being factitious. —David Levy 16:46, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
Seeing that this conversation seems like it's going to happen anyhow, I might as well address it here. The question is not whether the products are widespread, but whether they're notable in the encyclopedic sense (or even make any claim to be so in their article). I believe that apart from one article that I deleted by mistake, there were no claims to notability in these articles -- they were just product listings, which are not encyclopedic no matter how common the product is. 99% of the existing product articles are crap. The few that merit inclusion need to make very clear what cultural or scientific significance they have in their article. G11 is designed to create a large culling in our articles (focusing on commercial listings) to weed out problems. Read Brad's post on the Wikimedia Foundation mailing list and the extensive discussion connected to it to understand the full story. In the end, I believe that we'll have almost no listings on cellphones, cookies, toilet plungers, toothbrush models, shavers, and the rest of that stuff, with any articles that do remain being on products that have a greater impact on society than merely bring yet another member of some product line. --Improv 19:40, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
The problem most people seem to have with what you did, Improv, was not that the articles weren't worthy of nominating for deleting (some of them probably were), but that they were not suitable for speedy deletion. I know you have said that AfD is "broken", but using CSD to circumvent AfD is not going to win you lots of fans, even if you consistently claim (as you have done) to have the project's encyclopedic goals in mind. CSD is intended for easily defined criteria that won't generate controversy. That distracts from the task of building the encyclopedia, and is bad.
Turning from the method you used, to Brad's post. You know as well as I do that there are pages out there that really are spamvertisements. These pages are, in Brad's own words, examples of "corporate self-editing and vanity page creation". Brad also talked about "new usernames and page creation [that is] blatantly commercial". The pages you deleted were not examples of this. They were created by normal editors (not one purpose spamming accounts), had in some cases been created over a year ago, and in some cases had been edited by many editors who had failed to spot the "blatantly commercial" aspect you seem to have seen. I think you should stop using Brad's post to justify your actions, and point to some articles that are genuine examples of what Brad was talking about. Carcharoth 00:09, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
Why did you remove my added image to Hyak, Washington? The photo was given to me to use as I wish, as I stated in the description. Bill, who took the photo gave that to me to use on my website or anywhere else I would like to use it. I don't understand why the removal?--Mrhyak 06:38, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
Number 16 here. Maybe I'll see you in Philly. --evrik 17:40, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
I've removed your prod from AVG Anti-Virus. It most definitely meets WP:SOFT #1, aside from the large number of users making it notable independent of WP:SOFT. Anyway, have a nice day. Cynical 20:42, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi. I removed your prod tag from My Scary Girl. I very much doubt that you really thought that this was an "uncontroversial deletion candidate" given that it clearly meets WP:NOTFILM. Please respect existing policies. Pascal.Tesson 21:12, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
"Uploaded under fraudulent license" is not a speedy criteria therefor could you be supporting my attempt to turn A8 into a general criteria?Geni 01:55, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
Why was it removed, all licensing information was correct and accurate. Copyright owner gave express permission for use on wikipedia as well as general fair use critria. Contact information for Copyright own was provided as well.ULCGUY 05:14, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
Hello Improv, I was wonderining if you could help me by providing me with some more information about uploading pictures of art works onto Wikipedia. Thanks, Dfrg.msc 1 . 2 . 3 06:04, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm not exactly sure who originally posted the image in the article, but can I ask why it was removed? Thanks! Ackatsis 06:16, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
Thank you very much for supporting my RfA and thank you especially for your kind words. But I am a bit concerned that when my wife sees "...has been around for long enough that I recall him w/o having any negative impressions", she may decide that would make the perfect epitath for me someday ;-).
Atlant 15:33, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
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