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Thanks for the fixes to the new Rehavia-I wasn't sure about all those names. I was pretty much translating straight out of the Hebrew article, but I stopped when I came to the list of prominent buildings. Do you think that should be included also? Thanks, Keyed In (talk) 11:40, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
I see that you did some pretty thorough editing to the Rehavia entry. Your changes seem like a good simplification of an article that was becoming extremely detailed for its rather small size -- not to mention that the detail provided would have been foreign to many readers not already familiar with Jerusalem. I hope that my comments in the Discussion were helpful, or at least not bothersome. Poldy Bloom (talk) 19:56, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
We've had this discussion already. The name seems to be Berl Repetur. The Knesset website is wrong. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 19:04, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi. Tel Aviv is currently undergoing a copyedit in preparation for another FAC. The copyeditor has placed a tag next to this statement: "After the Crusaders left Palestine, life in Jaffa lay dormant for centuries." and I was wondering if it could be cited with the Jaffa: A City in Evolution book? If you could let me know, that'd be fantastic. Thanks. Flymeoutofhere (talk) 08:39, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi, can you please explain your edits to the article Shevah Mofet? While some are clearly good edits (especially the spelling/grammar/style corrections), there are others which are strange at best and harmful at worst. For example, who said that lists were discouraged on Wikipedia? On the contrary, they are encouraged for certain things that require lists. For example, the recent FAC Tel Aviv, which we both edited, includes a list of mayors. It is only fitting that a notable school include a list of principals. Also some of your removals were completely unexplained. My guess is that you thought they could be classified as 'unsourced accusations', however, in such a case I'm wondering why you didn't talk about it first. For example, we've had a discussion in the past (with a user who no longer edits) about the cafeteria part and it was decided not to remove it. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 17:02, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
I, For all your copyedits and improvements to Tel Aviv Flymeoutofhere (talk) 11:46, 13 April 2008 (UTC), award you this Bagel of Zion for improving the coverage of ציון. Remember not to edit on empty stomach. |
Gilabrand there is a discussion at Talk:Tel Aviv#History section regarding the earliest remains found in the city. There is a contradiciton between the Tel Aviv University website and the book source you added. Perhaps you could shed some light. Thanks. Flymeoutofhere (talk) 15:45, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
I've brought up the move issue on User talk:Valerius Tygart#Melekeh versus Jerusalem stone. Mangoe (talk) 19:21, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Nice addition to the article - but why did you upload such a low resolution version? Is it possible for you to start uploading resolutions of at least 1MB? --David Shankbone 13:48, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi Gila, Could you add to the discussion on the proper name for this article on the talk page? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 20:32, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
Is there any reason for which you think that Tzofit is the correct spelling? The name is generally quite certainly spelled Tzufit, and not Tzofit. There may be an exception in Grant's case per WP:COMMONNAME (i.e. if the media or most other sources use Tzofit, which is possible), in which case the proper spelling should be noted in the article itself. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 21:17, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Greetings. I am unaware of your notability or experience in the literature of the Sages or activities of Bikur Cholim in Los Angeles. Prior to making arbitrary changes, I would recommend you exercise due diligence and common courtesy. While you may disagree in form rest assured the content is accurate. Should you have a POV, then as a member of the wikepedia community, please share it responsibly. History is a POV and should be recorded accordingly. It appears that you have taken an interest to many areas. I would hope that you would expect that same courtesy from others with regard to those pages which you have contributed to.Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bikurcholim (talk • contribs) 06:14, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
I would somehow agree with the gentleman who wrote above. Before introducing changes, make a pause and think for a while... (1) You may believe that places of birth and death are not needed on the first line. This is a standard practice (and useful information) in all the encyclopaedias I know, including the Wikipedias (fr; it; de) with which I am more familiar; not forgetting printed encyclopaedias such as the 'Encyclopaedia Brittanica'. Wikipedia:en may be an exception. But is it an iron rule? (2) Doing missionary work and mission work is not the same. You may not be fully aware of that. Missionary work would mean working among non-Christians, while mission work usually refers to large-scale organized preaching campaign in order to revive faith life and practice in villages, towns or other social groups. (3) That Marie-Alphonse Ratisbonne left the Society of Jesus With the authorization of the Superior General and the blessing of the Pope should be mentioned. To leave the Society of Jesus is no light matter (it created much misunderstanding and suffering); the reasons why he did so should be mentioned. (4) In my view, mentioning the name of his parents is not relevant, but... relax... I do not belong to the group of those who remove things easily from Wikipedia!
All this being said, let me add that I appreciate much your contributions on Judaism.
Zerged (talk) 21:28, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Very much agreed that it's a really roughly written article. It does look like someone went in and rewrote it into a mess perhaps. I noticed that I stuck a few typose (typos, I mean), in there too. Thanks for getting right on it and cleaning them up. You were quite quick to delete the Wadi Salib history to begin with and it looked like maybe a little crab-wrestling match would ensue but when I went back in and put the info back and tried to make that section more solid, you tidied it up nicely. Thank you for just tidying it up and not deleting it again as people often do!LamaLoLeshLa (talk) 07:49, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Do you think we should move Mandate Palestine to under British Empire and Commonwealth? If you do go ahead, otherwise just leave it. Thanks. Chesdovi (talk) 17:43, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Please note that the neutral point of view policy applies to the inclusion of categories as well as content. Using a category to tag an article to express one side's point of view is a violation of NPOV. Your addition of Category:Propaganda to Muhammad al-Durrah has therefore been reverted. -- ChrisO (talk) 18:59, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi, would you care to comment on the AfD discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Caravanim? Thank you, Yoninah (talk) 08:40, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi Gila. I see you reverted my recent edit to Yom Yerushalayim. While it may be true that Anti-Zionists have a second reason not to celebrate it, the main reason Chareidi Jews do not celebrate that or any other Israeli holiday is due to conservatism and reluctance to change from the traditionally practiced way of our fathers. Indeed, Chareidim are unequivocally considered among the most conservative form of Judaism, and conservatism by definition means adherence to original ways of doing things and reluctance to change. Though this may be original research (your edit summary indicates that you feel that way), the line as it exists is no better. Also see the infobox, where it is described as "Secular (observed religiously in some Zionist communities)." Clearly secular, and thus considered to have no place among a community in which religion is paramount.
I do appreciate that you later rephrased the sentence to clarify that not all Chareidim are Anti-Zionists. I still think that some mention should also be made of the secular nature of the holiday. Not wanting to engage in edit warring, I would be delighted to hear your opinion. Regards. Keyed In (talk) 09:39, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
The image is aparently flipped, showing the religious books on the opposite way (left to right). Please fix it by flipping in any imaging program. Shoteh (talk) 14:22, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
I see that your political agenda is about removal of information and not adding to the sum of human knowledge. Why don't you start a page called the Katz controversy as that is all you seem to think that the Tantura massacre is about?
Was the village cleansed of Palestinians or are they still living in Tantura?Ashley kennedy3 (talk) 09:43, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
May I suggest you read some of the Benny Morris foot notes. In particular Benny Morris (2004)p. 299 to 301. As Brechor Shitrit asked Ben-Gurion for permission to move the Tantura refugees from Fureidis it is quite apparent that the refugees went to Fureidis. Also Meron Benvenisti says that the refugees went to Fureidis, thirdly when you tried to make the article a Katz controversy article you removed all the information on the village but left the town statistics from Palestine Remembered, so if you have a problem with Palestine Remembered why did you leave it in the Katz Controversy section? Further the interpretation of the words used in the order was "cleanse or subdue". Clearly as the inhabitants of Tantura are no longer there, subdue would be the incorrect term. Or it could be put as "subdued and then cleansed". But it is correct to use the term cleanse as that was part of the order given. Obviously you do not like the term but as it was used in the original Military order it would be correct in using it now. It seems from your mail that you have a political agenda of removing any portion of any article that does not agree with your political views. I on the other hand realise that there are two views. This is why when I made the article I included the Katz controversy and also included the quoted order. If you feel that the order given was inappropriate then get a time machine and go back and have the order changed. Because in this universe at this point in time the "order to cleanse or Subdue" is in existence. Trying to change or deny a historical event by removing it from wiki is ridiculous.Ashley kennedy3 (talk) 08:38, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
Hmm, I've spent a while thinking about this issue, going through the talk page discussions and reading through the different revisions. The truth is that I'm not familiar with the issues, so I'd rather not get involved in the discussion beyond reminding people to keep cool heads. This is in now way saying "I'm taking the easy way out", because at the end of the discussion I'm going to make a decision to unprotect the article or take it to dispute resolution. I also suggest getting someone more familiar with the article's issues for a third opinion. Sorry this doesn't really help, but I've seen a lot of editors (and admins) plunge head-first into disputes they have no idea about, and it just exacerbates and prolongs the discussion. I'm watching the page, and I will intervene if things get out of hand. :) Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 22:26, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
Pay close attention to the edits on Jewish neighborhoods in Jerusalem. All mainstream, reputable news agencies refer to them as just that. Associated Press, Reuters, CNN, FOX News, New York Times, Boston Globe, San Francisco Chronicle, among others call it that. One editor claims Reuters calls it a "settlement" but I have only found the opposite of that claim. --Shamir1 (talk) 07:25, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
Work on the Katz controversy let other editors work on the expulsion. Try not to get the 2 events confused.Ashley kennedy3 (talk) 11:09, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
They are directly related one is a historical documented fact with no controversy and the other is the Katz controversy. So work on the Katz controversy, I have absolutely no problem with leaving your work alone. But please add to not remove because of your political bias. I had included a section on the Katz controversy in the first article where upon you deleted half the expulsion work as though the expulsion was not documented. The expulsion is documented and has good provenance. The Katz controversy is only about the extent of the incident, as to whether is should be titled a massacre or not. That is immaterial to the historiography of the expulsion, it is over that point that you appear to have some confusion.Ashley kennedy3 (talk) 13:52, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
whose messages she also took the trouble to delete. I have not followed the changes since then, and I'm not sure I want to.--Gilabrand (talk) 18:52, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
As you didn't seem to want to work to improve I combined everything under al-Tantura not under advice. A place where they should have been in the first place had you not tried to remove anything that was against your Political POV....Try and keep your personal slurs downAshley kennedy3 (talk) 22:29, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
Why is this not special? To how many people have you given prizes? It takes someone important and notable to present a prize -- and the Raoul Wallenberg Award is hardly a door prize at a high school prom. DRosenbach (Talk | Contribs) 15:47, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the kind word, now I'm blushing :). You're not so bad yourself ! Canadian Monkey (talk) 16:20, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
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FYI, I moved the Beit Jalla reprisal raid article to Beit Jala reprisal raid. Hope it doesn't create problems from the AfD (as far as I can tell, you haven't created the AfD sub-page yet). Please let me know if something goes wrong. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 17:35, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi Gilabrand! It appears that you aren't going to proceed with the AfD, so perhaps you'd like to help me improve the article :) for starters, it needs serious copyediting and formatting, which you seem to be proficient at, and after that the content needs to be re-written, with an emphasis on replacing the primary source (Hutchison) with secondary sources as much as possible. Let's convert this from a lame unreadable POV fork for a decent balanced article! I'm awaiting your reply/contributions, Ynhockey (Talk) 19:13, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks :) There has been some serious propaganda pushing going on in those articles lately. Nevertheless, as you surely know, you should not disrupt Wikipedia just to make a point, as you did here, even if it's a good point. -- Nudve (talk) 16:47, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Also, since you seem to know your stuff, do you think you could do Wikipedia a huge favor by creating an article about the "border wars" or "reprisal acts", parallel (but preferably better) to this one? It's just that it seems like without a main article about the nature of this conflict, such articles are bias-prone due to lack of context. -- Nudve (talk) 05:28, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
The term "racist allegations" makes racist into an adjective of the noun allegations. At best you've given the title a double meaning. Strongbrow (talk) 14:29, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
one should put in who said what. I'm trying to get you to put that in. You don't seem to have got the hang of accreditation. That is what the fact date tag was about...Ashley kennedy3 (talk) 09:28, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
As I understand, you are the arbitrator sent after Amoruso's request .
In addtion to your edid, the usage of "terror" by U.N and British Government should be moved to the body of the article, that is to say, to attach them to the event (that the article tells about) - and say that after this event this and that called them so.
If this remain at the first or second paragraph, it gives the impression as though this is the "definition" of the group, rather them lay out the facts in the relevent portion of the article.
I'd appreciate if you will move this to the relevent portion as well.
second, i'm trying to get some admin/arbitrator for my complaint - and here is what I wrote:
"how are you ?
I've found out that in addition to Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir being categorized as "Terrorist", the article referring to his organization (Lehi (group))has been categorized under "Category: Jewish terrorism" and "Category:Defunct organizations designated as terrorist", as well as the Disambiguation page of Lehi says:
I had edited both pages, including other issues, that meanwhile were resolved (on the talk page), but Meanwhile the disputed categories have also been reverted (in both pages by the same person, who categories such disputations on other articles as well) without further explanations.
I moved the discussion to the article's talk page as needed, and just by looking at the talk page of this article, you can see at list 2 discussions (prior to mine), that discussed the issue of categorizing the article under some form of "Terror" – all ending with no one getting to agree on this matter – it remained a disputed issue.
Further, I have opened another disscution on the matter, so I could find out why somebody placed a disputed category of "Terror" despite the fact that no one agrees upon it and no consensus was reached !? (See talk page of the article)
I couldn't get a reasonable explanation and No consensus was reached yet again.
This unilateral step was done (Initially) on:
12:35, 20 May 2008 MeteorMaker ("Organizations designated as terrorist" and "Jewish terrorism" added.)
I'd like to ask you to remove those categories in dispute, until a broader discussion that can produce a consensus will be held."
--Shevashalosh (talk) 18:16, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for all your edits to this article. I appreciate it. Happy138 (talk) 18:54, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
I would advise you to consult the interpretation of the said law by Moshe Neghi. I don't make these comments without a specific source in mind.Nishidani (talk) 19:57, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
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Since Nishidani claims he is conferrable with your edits as well?
Someone has vandalized the article with misleading statement that did not exist a month ago (timing from Amoruso), adding the "t" word all over the place.
They were never declared as such, nor have they adopted this word/goal.
Amoruso, has only noticed it, finally yesterday.
But the main point is that it was done against what people's view of this subject, hence, one's person decision against the all other peoples view.
Nobody seriously thinks they were terrorists (as can be seen on the discussions on talk page, even in the articles' current misleading condition), and when you read: paragraph 2 in the opening statement: "terrorists" or "Jews were sometimes killed in these attacks, and occasionally targeted for assassination"
or in the body of the article:
"Stern believed that ..And hat terrorist methods were an effective means for achieving those goals"
They don't think this is a serious site.
The urgency, is first to delete the second paragraph of the opening statement. Don't determine a narrative, let people read the facts.
Second, (as to the body of the article) this whole "terror" typos/grammar doesn't sound serious (as reflected in previous discussions) and therefore does not serve wiki's neutral policy's face.
if you insist, ad some where deeper in the article that "Ralph Bunche claimed they were terrorists" (but not the U.N or else), though it sound a poorly argument and as if you are including some minority's claim.
--Shevashalosh (talk) 20:54, 3 July 2008 (UTC) Well, the page is blocked at the moment. Maybe I'll have a look in a few days. But I wasn't very successful in my editing. Everything I wrote was reverted...--Gilabrand (talk) 20:58, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
Why did you delete my comments : . Ceedjee (talk) 19:58, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
Greetings, GB. If, as you wrote in a Jerusalem edit summary, "Tel Aviv was not ever Israel's capital", the Tel Aviv article will need copyediting in section 2.4. You would know better than I how to reword those lines accurately. Could you have a look? Thanks and cheers, Hertz1888 (talk) 15:40, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
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