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I live in a bad area so i see no good chavs but i will believe you (just). Yes i believe South Ronaldsay child abuse scandal is very relivent to the persicution of heathans page. The whole issue of satanic child abuse is very relivent especially as the kids where more likely to be abuse in care due to no security checks on social workers at this time.Hypnosadist 17:59, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
Salaam Judith,
Nice to hear from you! And as usual thanks for your kind and interesting comment on my talk page! The good thing that I like about Watt is that he suggests to Christians to read about the concept of God in Islam in order to understand their own trinity better. and similarly to Muslims. So interesting to me! I feel he has taken the right strategy. I feel different people use different terms for the same concepts or approach the same concept in different ways. I think the missionaries of all religions should not say people that I have the truth and let me teach you what I believe but rather, I have something which may help you to understand your own religion better. Even the seemingly contradictory beliefs, can be reconciled together if the proper interpretations are adopted. I may be misguided, but am happy to confess that I have reconciled myself with the Bible at least as I much as I understand it. I do believe in salvation that came through Jesus and that Jesus died on the cross. On the cross issue, I am taking the view of a minority of Muslim scholars. I have seen many Christians and I should confess I have been overwhelmed by their sincerity and kindness. Their nice treatment of me has even influenced the way I read the Qurâanic verse on Christians. On the contrary, my main experience of contact with the Jews has been on wikipedia and â¦.
Judith, unfortunately I am really off in Taoism. I read the article on Tao but didn't get much out of it. I have got the feeling that balance in life is a very important concept. I tried to find the relevant qurâanic verses on this topic and found a few:
Just a start point. :) Cheers --Aminz 09:28, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
Thanks very much Judith. I'll read Tao Te Ching and then, I think will have many questions to ask :P Cheers --Aminz 21:23, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
I'll just respond here, since I've disabled my Wikipedia e-mail access following what happened to another Wikipedian (complicated story, I don't know all the details, but I can guess what happened, and I would rather not gossip about it).
Anyway, I've had kidney disease for quite some time. The loss of blood during my suicide attempt was the final insult that made my kidneys stop working sufficiently well, meaning that now I have to go on dialysis. Also, if you have read my userpage, then you know that I have pulmonary hypertension. While I can get around OK right now, I also know that realistically, my condition will probably deteriorate within a few years, to the point where I will require a lung transplant, and both kidney disease and psychiatric problems are considered to be negatives when selecting who should be put on the transplant list. I'm working on an article right now about lung transplantation, in my sandbox, if you would like to know more. But basically, I'm a bit stressed because by my own actions, I may have eliminated any chance for a transplant should that become necessary.
This is why I didn't want to go into detail at first. --Kyoko 13:29, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
Would you please look at this article! TruthSpreaderTalk 16:30, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
Salut Judith, ouais, j'aime beaucoup la cuisine du Québec! I guess the operative word for it is "hearty". It's filling, full of calories, nothing particularly ornate or refined (not like French haute cuisine, I mean), but just good. A lot of it also hearkens back to the past, when loggers' and trappers' families would prepare feasts for special occasions or simply to keep warm during the cold winters.
As for anorexia, it's not so much a problem of food quality as it is insecurity and finding fault in your self-image. I'm rather slight of build (1.67 meters, 51.1 kilos) which gives me a Body Mass Index of 18.3, which is slightly underweight. Even so, there are times when I look at myself and think that I should cut down on calories. I am significantly better than in the past, when I got down to 39.7 kg, or a BMI of 14.2. I really am trying to overcome this, but it's something that I've had ever since I was a teenager, and it's terribly easy to relapse into. In a sense, anorexia feels normal for me. I understand intellectually that I have to eat more in order to safeguard my health, but it takes effort to get over thinking patterns that you've had for a long time. I'm taking medication as well as seeing a therapist for my depression, which hopefully should also help with the anorexia. --Kyoko 14:43, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
Plus, Dalit Voice (his rag) runs publications glorifying Hitler and the Third Reich, denies the holocaust and frequently alleges "Jewish Conspiracies" and other anti-semitic things. Everything to that effect is cited.Hkelkar 15:53, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
You're afraid that wikipedia will get sued because of this? Who will sue wikipedia, the ghost of the legal offices of the Third Reich???Hkelkar 23:51, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
Just a general comment here, which I have been beating all around previously. Wikipedia is not in the business of calling people anti-semites (or anything else). If a subject publishes anti-semitic statements, they can be quoted and sourced, in a neutral way. If a reliable source calls the subject an anti-semite, then that can also be reported and sourced, in a neutral way. If a reliable source that happens to be anti-semitic calls the subject a great visionary, that can also be quoted and sourced in a neutral way. If a third party reliable source points out that the source calling the subject a visionary is itself anti-semitic, then that too can be presented and sourced, in a neutral way. WP is an encyclopedia. It should not conclude "Hitler was a bad man." It should point out verified facts on how many people he killed, how many countries he destroyed, and can quote other reliable sources who say "Hitler was a bad man." It is a distinction that means the difference between verifiable reporting, and original research. "Hitler was a bad man" is, at it's root, an opinion. A majority opinion, to be sure, but still an opinion. If you happen to be a neo-nazi, then you may not hold that opinion. That he was responsible for a lot of death and destruction, and that reliable sources called him a bad man, is verifiable fact. WP reports verifiable facts, some of which may be the opinions of reliable sources. But WP does not give opinions on the facts presented. Crockspot 14:39, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi! If you need any help on anything, feel free to comment on my talk page. I just want to suggest that your talk page seems quite ready for archiving, which might speed things up in the future on this talk page. Thanks! Mar de Sin Talk to me! 15:36, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
This diff: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=History_of_the_Jews_in_Italy&diff=79880695&oldid=79853386
Your edits concerning removing POV on Immanuel vs Reiti are fine. Your edits concerning pope Innocent-III can be construed as an attempt to whitewash his significant anti-semitism by shortening the wording and hiding it inside the large article. It needs to be more prominent and descriptive (your changes to the title of the section are fine).Hkelkar 12:15, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for explaining your point.I am, of course, somewhat familiar with the Jewish Encyclopedia (though I have mostly only read the Notseas dos Judeos de Cochim and similar works), though perhapos you should WP:CITE accordingly instead of just putting an "External Link" (to avoid confusion). Sorry for using "emotive language".Hkelkar 16:16, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi there, I'll make this quick because I'm in a hurry. Yes, it has been found that low intensity exercise (nothing too strenuous) has been helpful in maintaining and prolonging the quality of life for patients with pulmonary hypertension. --Kyoko 22:10, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
OK, I'm back. In my haste, I forgot to add that I'm sorry for your loss. If she was anything like yourself, she must have been a wonderful person.
Regarding your question, there is an article here about the benefits of low-dose exercise for people with PH. --Kyoko 23:24, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
Welcome to WikiProject Brighton. Thank you for joining and sorry for the late welcome. I hope you can help me finish the project page sometime. Unisouth 08:58, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
I thought noone was still interested in th rpoject so I abandoned it. I will remove the tag now that I know you still are. Unisouth 08:55, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi Judith. I've moved the banner to the talk page on Stanmer House as that's usually where these go, I think. Also, I see that User: Kierant has done a similar thing with the Brighton article. Cheers, --A bit iffy 12:03, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi Judith, thank you very much. I'm now out of the hospital, with mixed results. Good news: my kidney function has improved enough that I no longer require hemodialysis. Bad news: I'm not as responsive to calcium channel blockers as was initially thought, so for my PH, I now have to get used to wearing an infusion pump for treprostinil and resticking myself every few days. The needles I can handle (I never knew that the tummy area was so insensitive to needle pricks!), but the medicine itself hurts quite a lot when it's being infused under your skin. I'm told that the amount of pain may lessen over time, and that different areas of the body (or even different parts of the same area) may hurt less. Meh. Still, I'm not on dialysis. I guess you have to take what good things you can get, eh? --Kyoko 23:07, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
I am for the merge of Tuk tuk and Auto rickshaw as they are the same thing but with different names. I would keep Auto rickshaw as it is a generic name not relating to a specific builder. Should I put notices up on the articles about the merge? Unisouth 07:41, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
It has been restored since per prod rules one need only ask. I recommend getting things linking to it and sourced so it can't be AfDed. gren ã°ã¬ã³ 00:26, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm currently learning French and German at school at the moment, so I might not need her. Will (Glaciers melting in the dead of night) 14:20, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi Judith, I decided to make a new header. I took a quick peek at the square root article, and I understood the lead just fine. I'm wondering whether the idea of positive and negative numbers needs to be defined, or more precisely, non-negative numbers, and if so, then how to phrase it. As for chemo, there is a medicine whose name I currently cannot recall, but it stimulates the production of red blood cells, leading to increased energy. I know that the medicine is banned from competitive sports for precisely that reason. I just can't remember the name of it right now. --Kyoko 21:11, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi there, I think the name of it is Epoetin. I don't know if this would be appropriate for your relative, but I hope knowing about it helps. --Kyoko 21:49, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi Itsmejudith! Thanks for thinking of me regarding Historical materialism. I generally stay away from articles I know I have a bias for or against (with the possible exception of BBC where I'm strongly pro but challenge myself to edit differently and usually manage it). I've glanced at the article; and I agree with Marx's line on the matter to an extent; but I can add nothing of my own to it. Nevertheless, I will watchlist it and see if I can help with the general up-keep. Thanks again! ⨠ЯEDVERS 20:17, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Thank you so much Judith for the greeting and for the Biryani. Biryani might be originally persian, not sure. The word is derived from the verb "biryan (kardan)", so if such verb doesn't exist in hindi, then it should be persian. Actually, Sunnis and Shias have different ways of determining when Eid is. Sunnis are modern and use mathematical calculations. Shias on the other hand are less modern. They seek for the moon in the night-sky. It is hard to see the moon in the first night and apparently, in some places, the moon of the first night is not observable without telescope. Anyways, I am still fasting today. I have already joined my friends in greeting the Eid, but will hopefully enjoy the Eid tomorrow. Thanks again, --Aminz 23:26, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi Judith, I had wanted to include more about the actual procedure of lung transplants prior to putting it online. The lung allocation score article feels ready to me. I could insert the actual formulas involved (many formulas), but I'm a little concerned that inserting them will only hurt the readability and usefulness of the article. I do have a couple of concerns about these articles:
You have a good idea about the Wikiprojects. Both of these would probably fit under Wikipedia:WikiProject Clinical medicine. I made changes to the treprostinil article following your advice, and started a stub on beraprost, another chemical with a similar mode of action. I hope your relative gets better, and I hope that you have an enjoyable wikibreak. --Kyoko 22:46, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
... TangoTango has kindly written up a script that once a week lists all of the new members to Esperanza. The list can be found at User:Tangotango/New members of Esperanza; it is updated once a week, and will show all of the new members since the last update. If you're not sure if everyone who joined the past week has been welcomed, that is a great place to check! I hope that helps you in your welcome, and thank you for making a point to greet new Esperanzians! -- Natalya 18:37, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar | ||
Your service to Wikipedia is most deserving of this barnstar. Good job! Sharkface217 21:41, 31 October 2006 (UTC) |
Hi Judith,
I am so sorry. As you said you are going to be away for a week, I thought I can reply your email later but actually forgot to reply it. So sorry. Will reply back tomorrow where I have access to campus network. Sorry again. --Aminz 09:12, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
P.S. welcome back and hope you had a good time. --Aminz 09:12, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
Hi Judith, this is just to let you know that my lung transplantation article is now online. I haven't expanded it significantly beyond when you last saw it, but it looked ready enough, and I was getting sick of reading the same text over and over. According to your list of contributions, it seems that you are partially back online. I hope that you are doing well. Take care, --Kyoko 01:23, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
May be you will be intrested in taking part in the ongoing mediation about Muhammad pictures in Muhammad article. If so then sign in and take part. --- ابراÙÙÙ 11:14, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
It looks good. I think it might be good to add a sentence paralleling "In the Muslim lands the practice of ..." about the situation of Yellow badge in Christian land. Shortening the Lewis quote also seems good. Hope everything is going well with you. --Aminz 06:44, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
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Hi there, I'm now being allowed a limited time online during my hospital stay. I don't have the time to respond to everyone, so I have to make this fast. Doctors have increased my dosage of sertraline, and they hope the increased dosage combined with more frequent therapy sessions will help stabilise my mood. I hope to be out of here by the weekend. I've already asked Springeragh to spread the word, but you are welcome to do that too. As a side note, I am extremely concerned about User:Editor at Large. Wish me luck. --Kyoko 20:22, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
You're welcome. I wasn't familiar with teh case either and my knowledge of the American legal system is miniscule. Avalon 07:20, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
Big thank you for the barnstar you awarded me the other day! Really made my day...thanks a lot! See ya around. ~~ Gromreaper(Talk)/(Cont) 03:02, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
Judith, Isn't book a reliable source? It is the text book for the course Bio-ethics taught at University of California Berkeley (BioE 100 - Ethics in Science and Engineering). How can I explain this to other editors? Haven't I the right to sometimes become angry? I have requested for an RfC on this but why should it go that way? --Aminz 11:18, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
Judith, Thanks for your reply. I don't think I have misrepresent it(or any other sources). If you can point me to any specific point, I will accept it and try to change myself. Thanks --Aminz 19:28, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
I admit being biased through using the scholars that I like (such as Watt, Esposito, Annemarie Schimmel, Martin Forward, etc etc). But that's the case with everybody. --Aminz 19:43, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for your support...
Thank you ever so much, Itsmejudith, for your kind words and understanding in my time of need. I deeply appreciate your support, and I hope to be there for you, should you ever need help. â Kyoko
Hello Judith, thanks for your well wishes. I'm doing a little better, i.e. not thinking of harming myself and now out of the hospital, but my energy level is still pretty low. Because of all this, I'm not returning to work on Monday as originally planned. I wish I wasn't so, well, fragile, and I wish that it could be instantly cured, but I know that that's not the case. I guess I'll just have to make small steps in my recovery and celebrate each milestone along the way. I hope you're doing well, and I should also add that E@L e-mailed me and she said that she was feeling somewhat better. I hope that's truly the case and that she's not pretending in order to alleviate other people's worries (something that I've done far too much in my life). Thanks again. --Kyoko 02:29, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
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Though what you did is not so random, I, on behalf of E@L, award you this barnstar for ll your support. Randfan 18:34, 12 November 2006 (UTC) |
Hi Judith, as I explained to another user (I think it was User:Editor at Large, actually), the medication takes the "edge" off but it isn't a total fix, and it takes time for the medication itself to take full effect. I think that talk therapy is probably more effective in the long run, supplemented with medication as necessary (as it seems to be the case with me). I think part of my problem is that when I left home, I stopped treatment of my depression because at the time I thought I could handle things on my own. It worked OK for a while, i.e. somewhat low mood but nothing major, but for some reason the depression just became severe again this year. As for the rest of your message: I've never read the Tao Te Ching. I'd love to hear more about your flowers when they bloom. The weather where I am is quite seasonal and pleasant, about 15 degrees. Thanks again.--Kyoko 00:06, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
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My problem is... that any reform anywhere in Islamic history is attributed to Muhammad. If in 2 years we find that women's rights really were stupid then Muhammad will have been against women's rights and he took the first step in veiling people when the rest of the world was against it. If Islam goes the way of accepting gay marriage Reforms from 610-661 will be seen as having sanctioned gay marriage. It's not that I don't agree that the time period brought great reform--I do... but the question is what reform. Because every generation of Muslims since that time have said they are going back to how it was done in the time of the prophet. Both the "Muslim feminists" and the "Salafis" claim legitimacy from Muhammad's reforms. In one case they are carrying out Muhammad's call to liberate and make females equal. In the other they are enforcing the proper attire for women endorsed by the Qur'an and Sunnah. Which was really a "reform under Islam [from] (610-661)"? Your guess is as good as mine.
Using the title "Reforms under Islam (610-661)" implies that we could also have an article of "Reforms under Islam (662-715)". What would be the difference between the two articles? Both dates are before even Maliki hadith. There is uncertainty among many non-Muslim historians about Qur'an compilation. We don't have any real scholars of Islam writing from that time period to confirm what Islam was in those periods. My point is... if we say that any reforms happened before we actually have written history we're getting into trouble because we are legitimizing whatever view of Islam agrees with what we put as reforms from 610-661. It's not that there aren't any earlier sources... there are some... but they don't paint a full picture and this is a much contested area of study.
Can you agree that for all 'scholarly' intent and purpose a reform of Muhammad is a reform that his followers have retroactively projected upon him. That isn't to say that Muhammad didn't do anything. He did (since very few people will go as far as saying there was no prophet). But, even assuming that hadith and Qur'an are true--it would still be difficult to get Muslims, let alone others, to agree on what the reforms were. So, when we say XXX was a reform under Islam from 610-661 we are not getting into a historical debate, we are getting into a political one. That is why I think this is all wrong.
My first practical suggestion would be removing (610-661). It is clear that many Muslims have seen their reform vis-a-vis pre-Islamic jahaliyyah Arabia. Removing the time period means that we are not longer saying "this reform happened in the time period of the prophet" and therefore we aren't getting into the business of saying what "Islam is correct". It's not that we have no idea what happened during that time. Few will venture to say that Muhammad made same-sex marriages permissible (in fact, pre-modern sexual identity is difficult enough in itself). But, we cannot define the nuance of his reforms without a lot more evidence from that time period.
But now... I have a 12-15 page paper on something I haven't really read due in about 9 hours. So, I should probably start working on that. Good luck, hope this wasn't worthless. gren ã°ã¬ã³ 06:04, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
In order to show that I have NOT misrepresented the sources (to be more precise, that wasn't my intention; I might have been careless in some cases which I don't know), I am willing to email any source I've used(i can scan the encyclopedia (encyclopedia of Qur'an; encyclopedia of Islam) articles)--Aminz 07:07, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
The first quote from bernard lewis: article http://www.nybooks.com/articles/4557
complete quote:
“ | In a sense, the advent of Islam was itself a revolution, which after long struggles only partially succeeded. After the Islamic conquests of the seventh century, there was a continuing tension between the new religion and its message and the very old societies of the countries that the Muslims conquered. Islam came, not into a new world, like Christendom in Europe, but to lands of ancient civilization and deep-rooted traditions. This tension between Islamic dynamism and the older forces of the river-valley societies continued through medieval into modern times. For example, Islamic doctrine is basically egalitarian. It is true that the equality of Islam is limited to free adult male Muslims, but even this represented a very considerable advance on the practice of both the Greco-Roman and the ancient Iranian world. Islam from the first denounced aristocratic privilege, rejected hierarchy, and adopted a formula of the career open to the talents. | ” |
--Aminz 07:13, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks Judith. I was thinking of adding a section on historicity of the reforms. Judith, I appreciate your reasonable approach. Thanks so much. In fact, it is true that the most conspicuous thing about Muhammad is his military success. Within only a decade, Arabs defeated two big empires and extended their territory. In fact according to Daniel Brown (Rethinking Tradition in Modern Islamic Thought, Cambridge University Press, p.65), the view of these modern Muslim biographies is that Muhammad's real miracle, as Daniel Brown states modern historians would probably agree, 'was not a moon split or a sighing palm tree, but the transformation of the Arabs from marauding bands of nomads into world conquerors.'
I haven't read a western biography of Muhammad except that they touch this issue. But that's not all. According to Watt, "The more one reflects on the history of Muhammad and of early Islam, the more one is amazed at the vastness of his achievement. Circumstances presented him with an opportunity such as few men have had, but the man was fully matched with the hour. Had it not been for his gifts as seer, statesman, and administrator and, behind these, his trust in God and firm belief that God had sent him, a notable chapter in the history of mankind would have remained unwritten."
Gren is right. Muhammad didn't accomplish everything but he designed the conceptual structure. Watt writes: "there is Muhammad's wisdom as a statesman. The conceptual structure found in the Qur'an was merely a framework. The framework had to support a building of concrete policies and concrete institutions. In the course of this book much has been said about Muhammad's far-sighted political strategy and his social reforms. His wisdom in these matters is shown by the rapid expansion of his small state to a world-empire after his death, and by the adaptation of his social institutions to many different environments and their continuance for thirteen centuries."
So, as you can see, Watt says that what happened later also reflected Muhammad's far-sights.
But we should not forget one thing. There were other parameters besides Muhammad himself. Watt writes:
"Circumstances of time and place favoured Muhammad. Various forces combined to set the stage for his life-work and for the subsequent expansion of Islam. There was the social unrest in Mecca and Medina, the movement towards monotheism, the reaction against Hellenism in Syria and Egypt, the decline of the Persian and Byzantine empires, and a growing realization by the nomadic Arabs of the opportunities for plunder in the settled lands round them. Yet these forces, and others like them which might be added, would not in themselves account for the rise of the empire known as the Umayyad caliphate nor for the development of Islam into a world religion. There was nothing inevitable or automatic about the spread of the Arabs and the growth of the Islamic community. Without a remarkable combination of qualities in Muhammad it is improbable that the expansion would have taken place, and the military potential of the Arabs might easily have spent itself in raids on Syria and 'Iraq with no lasting consequences. "
I agree with you that the focus of that article is only on social aspects not military ones. Agreed. --Aminz 10:09, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Sure. I'll try to get the book. Thanks.
Regarding the suggestion, Well, that's not all. According to Watt, Muhammad had 3 gifts: 1. gift as a seer. 2. gift as a stateman 3. his skill and tact as an administrator and his wisdom in the choice of men to whom to delegate administrative details.
Regarding the first one Watt writes:
"First there is Muhammad's gift as a seer. Through him -- or, on the orthodox Muslim view, through the revelations made to him -- the Arab world was given a framework of ideas within which the resolution of its social tensions became possible. The provision of such a framework involved both insight into the fundamental causes of the social malaise of the time, and the genius to express this insight in a form which would stir the hearer to the depths of his being. The European reader may be ' put off ' by the Qur'an, but it was admirably suited to the needs and conditions of the day."
I wrote his quote about his gift as a statesman. Watt continues:
"Thirdly, there is his skill and tact as an administrator and his wisdom in the choice of men to whom to delegate administrative details. Sound institutions and a sound policy will not go far if the execution of affairs is faulty and fumbling. When Muhammad died, the state he had founded was a ' going concern ', able to withstand the shock of his removal and, once it had recovered from this shock, to expand at prodigious speed."
Now, Watt was only a historian. He wasn't a linguist. He was also especialized in economy either. --Aminz 10:28, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Hi there.While I was (attempting) to wikify the 'Buddha's Relic and Jetavanaramya' article ,I noticed that you had left a note on the talk page.I agree with you on merging it with another article. The article 'Ruwanwelisaya' has basically the same information under the 'Buddha's Relic' subject title,and I don't think that the 'Buddha's Relic and Jetavanaramya' is needed.Could you leave me a message on my talk page with your thoughts on this?Thanks :) Serenaacw 00:37, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
So...do you think the article needs a full rewrite or just a merge?Maybe I could mention it at the WikiProject Buddhism page,or we could just go with your original suggestion of tagging for an expert or going ahead and doing the merge if no one responds to a merge proposal.Serenaacw 09:27, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for your these edits .. I will be working on Islam article during this week and trying to put many references. However, my English is bad hence I hope you might do more corrections during the week :). --- ALM 10:35, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Judith, Please see these changes
The Encyclopedia of world history states that Muhammad's mission as a prophet included preaching against the social evils of his day. Now, Opiner wants to write: Muhammad preached against what he saw as the social evils of his day.
Opiner removes :" Islamic law transformed the nature of society and family, Jonathan Bloom and Sheila Blair Professors of Islamic and Asian Art at Harvard University state. [1]"
etc etc --Aminz 07:45, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
He is now accusing prophet muhammad as anti-semitic, the position which no scholar have ever taken. Anti-semitism was a western phenomenon. See what kind of editors I have to deal with :( --Aminz 10:33, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
Judith, my world view has changed. Now, I don't get angry at big lies as much as I used to. I'll probably post something on my user page. I feel comforted now. --Aminz 03:57, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
Hi Judith, glad to hear from you. I'm slowly recovering, and my mood has improved. It's still hard to get the energy to do very much, but I'm working on it. I am very very glad that I was so insistent about going online and alerting people about E@L, for reasons that should be clear if you've followed her contributions. I guess I happened to be in the right place at the right time, so to speak. At this moment, WP isn't so stressful, even with the whole Esperanza deletion debate, but then again, I'm not very emotionally invested in Esperanza except for the Stress Alerts page. I hope that you aren't feeling stressed from all this. --Kyoko 01:18, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
Hello! I've requested for a mediation, here Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/Reforms under Islam (610-661). Please join it. Thanks --Aminz 08:37, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for signing up. --Aminz 00:06, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
A recently opened Request for Arbitration focuses of possible violations of WP:NPOV and WP:BLP and possible systematic disruption of WP:RS. Some of the evidence presented centres on this discussion. As you were involved in the discussion, I thought you would like to know. It might help the project if a reading of the evidence, particularly that concerning the quoting of sources, moved you to make a comment or two on the workshop page. Hornplease 07:43, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Really was not necessary. I have always held you in high regard as an editor. Don't let my sometimes abrasive comments "shock you" (it's the Maratha blood in me I'm afraid). I am always willing to work with you regarding edits. Notice that I have not actually reverted your edits so far because they have been in good faith, verifiable and all that.Hkelkar 19:50, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
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Hi Judith,
Unfortunately I don't know him. He is not very famous, at least to my generation, I believe. I also asked some friends of mine but none know him so he shouldn't be that famous. So, I am not even sure if such an article should be here in wikipedia. But maybe he has been a good actor to previous generations, I dunno. Cheers, :) --Aminz 07:36, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Hi judith,
I noticed your recent subject heading change on the criticism section of Islam. While it seems technically more NPOV, don't you think it is too general? The content of the section consists of "critical" non-muslim perspectives and not simply non-muslim perspectives. In fact there are several, and I mean historically as well, pro-Islamic perspectives coming from non-Muslims. This begs the question of whether you wish to change the content of the section to actually reflect "Non-Muslim views" of Islam, or if you were trying what seemed to be a more NPOV way of saying "Criticism of Islam". In the latter case I would disagree with the change because it doesn't accurately reflect content, and the former I'm not sure about but it would warrant discussion. Anyway I was curious about what your thoughts were in making that change. Thanks.PelleSmith 12:19, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
I hope you don't mind me contacting you about this. I remember you commenting before (in a proposed arbitration which was not taken up by arbs except you), that this page had been a forum for POV-pushing for too long. I am also very frustrated with it. I wondered if you would be able to advise me about the workability of a suggestion which I made on the talk page without response. That is, that what is really needed is a page or pages on the history of antisemitism in recent times. Then all the manifestations could be mentioned there, including such issues as Bans on ritual slaughter and the New antisemitism page, if it remained, would just deal with New antisemitism as a theoretical construct used by some writers. I would also be grateful for any suggestions you might have about periodization, i.e. would it be most appropriate to have one page for the 20th century and another for the 21st, or would some other break date be advisable? Thanks in advance. Itsmejudith 15:08, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
For the warm welcome. I look forward to working with you and being a part of the team. Unfortunately I'm extremely busy for the next two weeks or more (I'm in the process of completely re-organizing the non-profit I direct - it's like herding cats with fish for hands).
Having said that, I (so far) can't resist logging on, so I'll be around:). I'm also going to need help soon myself.
Thanks again, NinaEliza 04:07, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the congrats about "Weird Al" Yankovic being yesterday's FA! ~~ Gromreaper(Talk)/(Cont) 04:58, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
I have volunteered to mediate your case. I am not a member of the Mediation Committee, but have some experience conducting mediations. I'll only do so, of course, if all the parties consent. Please indicate on the mediation page whether you agree or not. Cheers, JCO312 00:48, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Thanks, but I'm done. I have wasted far too much effort on battling with the Muslim editors that I could have spent on something I enjoyed. I thought I might be able to encourage them to actually write at least one article worth reading, but they'd rather edit war, insult Jews, and get blocked than actually contribute anything useful, and I'm thoroughly sick of it. There's going to come a point when most areas of the Wiki will be at least GA standard, but it'll never happen with a single Islamic article. get out while you can. Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 21:02, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
Happy Holidays!
Hi Judith, you are only the second person to get a greeting like this. E@L was the first one. I wanted to leave you a message for this time of year because of the kindness and patience you have shown me. I don't know what if any religion you follow, so I didn't choose a particular greeting. I will be on wikibreak for about a month starting on December 20, 2006, and I will likely be offline during this time. I hope that you are well, and that the new year will bring good things to you. Thank you for everything you've done. --Kyoko 04:33, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the comments. I recently added a Survey/Vote section to the comments, and hoped that you could officially enstate your vote there. I think it will be easier to balance out the various opinions that will flow in about the matter by doing it this way. Thanks, again. — `CRAZY`(lN)`SANE` (merry C–mas) 00:16, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
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