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I've noticed you're using what strikes me as a misapplication of the Possibly living people category. It looks as if you're using "Possibly..." when you're uncertain as to current status; while that's a reasonable interpretation from just the names of the categories, the Wikipedia rule-of-thumb is different. If you'll look at the fist page of the Living people category, you'll see this guidance:
As per conditions set out in Category:Births of the last 123 years, each individual born after 1884 (if year of birth is absent, earliest period of activity should be extrapolated), whose year of death remains undetermined, should appear in this category. Individuals of advanced age (over 90) for whom no documentation has existed for a reasonable number of years, may be removed from this category and transferred to Category:Possibly living people.
While this may seem odd at first glance, it's a direct consequence of WP:BLP; Wikipedia must treat biographies of living people specially, for many reasons most especially legal ones, and it's therefore policy to assume "living", except when clearly impossible or there's a reasonable source for the death. In other words, you should generally be using the "Living people" category a lot more and the "Possibly living people category" a lot less. Studerby 09:41, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
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I saw that you are a Quality Engineer. Have you by chance taken any of American Society for Quality certification exams (CQA, CQM, CQE, etc.)? I ask this because I am planning on taking the CQA on December 1 of this year. Please advise. Chris 20:12, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
Any chance you could fill in the articles from 1931 to 1948 for the FIS Alpine World Ski Championships? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Talk"? 20:30, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
Hi! I noticed your involvement on U.S. South-related articles, categories and WikiProjects, and I wanted to let you know about a bid we're formulating to get next year's Wikimania held in Atlanta! If you would like to help, be sure to sign your name to the "In Atlanta" section of the Southeast team portion of the bid if you're in town, or to the "Outside Atlanta" section if you still want to help but don't live in the city or the suburbs. If you would like to contribute more, please write on my talk page, the talk page of the bid, or join us at the #wikimania-atlanta IRC chat on freenode.org. Have a great day!
P.S. While this is a template for maximum efficiency, I would appreciate a note on my talk page so I know you got the message, and what you think. This is time-sensitive, so your urgent cooperation is appreciated. :) Mike H. I did "That's hot" first! 09:25, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
The category was deleted because it was so overused (the fact that some people use "athletes" to mean anybody involved in any sport, when it was supposed to refer only to athletics); instead, we now use more specific categories such as Category:Canadian biathletes, Category:Canadian track and field athletes, Category:Canadian triathletes, etc. Check the subcategories at Category:Canadian sportspeople to see if one of those is suitable. Bearcat 21:50, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
Hello, Thank you for volunteering to be a part of the Atlanta Wikimaina bid southeast team. We are holding meetings weekdays at 7:30pm EDT in #wikimania-atlanta on irc.freenode.org. For more information about IRC see m:Wikimania_2008/Bids/Atlanta/IRC. If you are able to make it, that would be great.
We now also have Google group for coordinating this bid. To get updates on the bid and our progress, please join the Google Groups mailing list at Google Groups wikimania-atlanta.
There is also a group on the social networking site Facebook in which interested parties can express their support for the bid.
If you do not wish to continue to receive these notifications about the bid or would rather they go to a talk page on a different project please change m: Wikimania_2008/Bids/Atlanta/Notify_list--Cspurrier 21:44, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
ok, i looked at the references and i agree. sorry about that, it was just an honest mistake Stewy5714 18:59, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
A tag has been placed on James Crall, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia per CSD a7.
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No trouble at all, I just did a tiny bit of polishing on your interesting article. Cheers, Espresso Addict 00:49, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
We will be holding a meeting tonight at 9:30pm EDT in #wikimania-atlanta on irc.freenode.org. For more information about IRC see m:Wikimania_2008/Bids/Atlanta/IRC. Please try to be at this meeting as it is one of the last ones before bidding ends and we still have lots that need to be discussed. --Cspurrier 19:39, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
On User talk:Bobo192, Miller17CU94 said:
Thanks for the revert on the Food science article. I really appreciate it.
Absolutely no worry. A link I commonly searched for appeared on the page (a link to the page Link title) and all it took was a one-click revert. It's when these vandals get worryingly persistent that it starts being problematic, but it seems that this user gave up immediately afterwards. All the best. Bobo. 13:43, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
look at this]. Maybe it's useful. 91.96.193.215 14:32, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
Please e-mail me or IM me immediately. You said you would be able to help as far as publicity, and we have a press release that needs to get on the air. My e-mail address is on http://www.wikimania-atlanta.org, and my IM is on my user page. Please contact me anytime. I am up all night so don't be afraid of contacting too late. Mike H. I did "That's hot" first! 03:18, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
Chris, I do have what I think count as references for two of the three things in the Popular Culture section I put in. Honeslty I don't take very kindly to your threat to delete my addition -- please call it what it is, "revert" is avoiding the issue. I link to the Poisonwood Bible page, I don't know why you say you don't know what it is when you can follow the link! That is so unbelievable I can only think your browser was in the process of crashing and wasn't showing all the links. I cite the Simpsons episode and the book, but I was only channel surfing a few years ago when I skipped across the Oblongs episode, so I don't have a episode citation, but I saw it. Here I am, an expert on a subject, trying to add to Wikipedia, and my additions are threatened with deletion. That is not the way Wikipedia is supposed to work. If you go and read The Poisonwood Bible, you'll first see deviled ham mentioned on page 13. Just because you don't know what something is doesn't mean you get to delete it. Follow the link next time. Yes, I'm angry about what you said, because it is not the way Wikipedia should work: I did what Wikipedia asks, and your response is to say you're going to delete it. Not cool. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.229.151.216 (talk) 15:32, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
Such people are considered notable: amateur athletes who compete at the highest level of their sport are covered under Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Additional criteria. Kindly remind any admin who deletes such pages you create of this criterion. - CobaltBlueTony 14:14, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
My info comes from a various places from the internet (like SSDI, Ancestry.com etc.). I have also various Olympic related books. I have gathered this data for years. Now what info do you need specifically? Gh 19:34, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. Go Tigers! --Robapalooza 23:39, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
That article looks really good. It seems like the previous version read a bit like a magazine profile. Thank you for working on it. Would you mind if I added a couple of inline citations? For some reason, I like filling in the cite templates! --Kateshortforbob 15:09, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
A tag has been placed on Thomas M. Jacobs, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia per CSD A7.
Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not meet basic Wikipedia criteria may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as an appropriate article, and if you can indicate why the subject of this article is appropriate, you may contest the tagging. To do this, add {{hangon}}
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Thomas M. Jacobs, an article you created, has been nominated for deletion. We appreciate your contributions. However, an editor does not feel that Thomas M. Jacobs satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination space (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and the Wikipedia deletion policy). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Thomas M. Jacobs and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Thomas M. Jacobs during the discussion but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Cruftbane 06:59, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, I didn't notice the other occurrences of the name in that article (unlike I usually do).--Supparluca 08:20, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
Please do not canvass for support in deletion debates, it is strongly discouraged. What is encouraged, and very strongly so, is adding all the reasons why the subject is notable into the article. They are useless in a deletion debate, because Wikipedia is first, last and all places in between about the encyclopaedia. Please do expand the article beyond "came 66th in the Olympics once", which really is not anythign like a claim to notability. Thank you. Cruftbane 11:38, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
Please have a look of Nataša Kejžar, whose 31st birthday is today. Do you think she is notable? Do you think that article should be deleted? She competed in one Summer Olympics. I am not changing the subject on this. I am just seeing where you stand on cruft and how far do you want to take this? Chris 20:19, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
I would agree that a statement that an athlete competed in the Olymics is an assertion of notability as defined by CSD A7. I actually beleive that a claim such as "John holds the Kansas high school tobagan record." is a sufficient assertion of notability, although I would expect that such an article would be deleted through one of the other processes. A7 was created in order to quickly and easily deal with articles such as "Bob is a student at Boring High School. He rocks." (Articles like this used to actually have to go to AfD.) Sadly, as the project has grown many editors and admins have tried to push the boundaries of A7 as far as possible. There seems to be a feeling on the part of some that the assertion of notability must be of a caliber to pass the various notability guidelines, or that it must be sourced, which was not the intent of A7. If it had been presented on this basis, it would never have gained consensus. However, removing A7 is no longer a current possibility. When I work on the candidates for sppedy deletion backlog, I delete at least five times as many articles as I remove the tags on.
As far as the other deletion processes go, I'm not terribly interested in sports, but it seems to me that anyone who has competed in any organized sport at an international level should meet the current notability standards, so of course, all of the Olympic athletes could and should have articles.
All of that said is that given the current situation, all that can be done is to protect the articles. If you are not the creator of an article, you may remove a speedy notice, so long as the article has a claim of notability. If it is nominated for PROD, if you are not the creator, you may remove that notice as well. If the article goes to AfD, and it is on an Olympic athlete, I am sure that it will result in a keep vote. Be sure to reference the apropriate notability guideline in your comments. If the article is speedied before you notice, you can bring it up with the deleting admin to see if they are willing to reconsider. If not, you can take it to Deletion Review, where it has been my experiewnce that an article with a genuine assertiion of notability has a good chance of being restored. If the a PROD expires and the article is deleted before you have a chance to remove the tag, you can contest the PROD after deletion ar deletion review and the article will be restored, but probally be sent to AfD. I think that in the long run, all articles on Olympic athletes and other top-tier amateurs will be kept, but it might be a bit messy. If I can be of any help, please drop me a note, although I can be somewhat sporadic in my participation her. Dsmdgold 00:40, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
Hello, As you may or may not know, Alexandria, Egypt was selected to host Wikimania 2008 . So as to prevent the hard work of the many Wikimedians involved in the Atlanta bid from going to waste, we have decided to host a conference for the Americas. This is in no way an attempt to compete with Wikimania or make a statement against Wikimania.
As one of the people signed up to help with the Wikimania Atlanta bid, we hope you will join us at the Wikimedia Conference of the Americas. We will be having a meeting tonight in IRC tonight (Oct 15) at 9:30PM in #cota-atlanta on irc.freenode.org to discuss the conference. For more information about IRC see .
For more information about the Wikimedia Conference of the Americas see http://www.cota-atlanta.org and our wiki http://www.cota-atlanta.org/wiki.
If you do not wish to receive further notices about the COTA please remove your name from our notify list. --Cspurrier 18:12, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
You recently reported User:216.51.233.200 for vandalism on WP:AIV. However they had not edited in over 12 hours since your warning. Blocks are preventative, not punitive. Blocking an inactive user who has not edited since receiving a warning would be considered a punitive block. Also, it is generally preferred (but by no means required) that a user receive a "final warning" (like this) and vandalize after that before being blocked. Hope this clears some things up. Keep up the good work. Mr.Z-man 15:26, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for adding that info. Last time I tried to create that page, it got deleted for bogus reasons. Now it looks more solid. I'm going to try to ask her for a good pic too. Are you a fan? Yaki-gaijin 06:13, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
You are welcome, although I don't think that the article was ever seriously in danger. You seem to have run across some editors, who, quite frankly, simply do not understand the notability guidelines. Keep up the good work. Dsmdgold 14:18, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
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Yeah, I'm doing fine. I'm surrounded by fires on most sides, but it is all multiple miles away. I live in a dorm on campus, and it is extremely unlikely that the fires will ever head this direction. I've had my college classes cancelled, so I've been volunteering for several hours each day at Qualcomm Stadium. I've been taking pictures too of the evacuation area, so I'll be uploading them when I get the chance. Thanks for your consideration, I really appreciate it. --Nehrams2020 23:27, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the help! It's funny that we submitted Cathy Turner and Bonny Warner to DYK on the same day. NawlinWiki 02:41, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
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