User talk:BrownHairedGirl/Archive/Archive 012
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Hi Elanna, I see that you have changed the indexing of surnames of people called McX. Where they hve been indexed as Macx, you have changed it to Mcx: , , ,
The reason given in one edit is "per Wikipedia:Categorization of people#Ordering_names_in_a_category", however I don't see any such guidance in that guideline. There was a discussion on the talkpage, but no consensus was reached (see Wikipedia talk:Categorization of people#Ordering_of_Mac.2C_Mc_and_M.27). I'm sure that this was a good faith mistake, but please don't go changing indexing on the basis of a guideline point which isn't in the guideline. Thanks --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 03:01, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
- In the article, under "Other exceptions," the last in the list is:
- The first letter of each word should be in upper case, and all subsequent letters should be in lower case, regardless of the correct spelling of the name.
- How is this NOT in the guideline? And how can it not be easily construed to apply to Mcx/MacX when nothing in the article says otherwise? It also much more authoritative than the "telephone listing" of the articles changed, since my local telephone book does NOT add the A. Wiki Manual vs someone's local version of a telephone book - I'd be damned for BAD editing if I let that reason fly in something that had NOT been discussed (yet how was I to know it had been discussed in the first place?).
- If you don't want semi-intelligent editors to read that entry and do the exact same edits I did, blame the entry in the article, not the editors. And please don't damn me with the faint praise of "good-faithing editing, bad-faith citation" when I do have a citation AND the logic to back up the edits. Elanna-Rose Talk 03:31, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
- Elanna, the articles were indeed indexed with "all subsequent letters should be in lower case", as per the guideline. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:11, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
- Further to which, please would you have a look at McNabb vs MacNabb vs McNab vs MacNab. 91.104.53.220 (talk) 00:06, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
- What exactly do you want me to look at in relation to those articles? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:51, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
- Further to which, please would you have a look at McNabb vs MacNabb vs McNab vs MacNab. 91.104.53.220 (talk) 00:06, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
- Elanna, the articles were indeed indexed with "all subsequent letters should be in lower case", as per the guideline. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:11, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
Next time you create a batch of {{england-earl-stub}}s, could you include William John Manners Tollemache, 9th Earl of Dysart in it? At the moment he's a gaping redlink in the article I've just written on Hammerton's Ferry, but as far as I can tell he seems to have had a truly dull career, which seems to have consisted of born - won lawsuit against ferry company - died. — iridescent 13:51, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
- I'm afraid that peers aren't really my thing; I only really work on them when they are also MPs. I'd suggest that you ask User:Kittybrewster or User:Choess, or at WikiProject Peerage.
- Hammerton's Ferry is a nice article — well done! — but I'm sorry to hear that Billy was so dull. However, he wouldn't be the dullest article on wikipedia. My nomination goes for that title goes to someone whose greatest achievement appears to have been to eat a fried egg sandwich every day. Hold the front page! --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:05, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
- I make that 40818 fried egg sandwiches. Impressive. — iridescent 14:36, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
- I feel unwell ... --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:38, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
- I make that 40818 fried egg sandwiches. Impressive. — iridescent 14:36, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Oops, I think I've probably used "otherpersons2" instead of "otherpersons" in a vast number of pages, not just the Paul Andersons you've just found. This is because the page at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Hatnote#Other_people doesn't make it clear that "otherpersons" works this way - it looks (to me) as if it can only be used to point to a "Paul Anderson (disambiguation)" page, not just to "Paul Anderson". I wondered, but didn't experiment enough. But having worked through a batch of Wikipedia:Suggestions for name disambiguation, I've now moved onto a new game: ridding WP of one of my pet hates, people using "is been" when they mean "is being". Or sometimes "has been". Or "is". Inspired by Wikipedia:Typo. PamD (talk) 14:48, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
- Ignore all that, I'm getting myself confused. But, it would be useful if there was a template to create a link "For other people called X Y, see [[X Y]]", for cases where the dab page is just called "X Y" and not "X Y (disambiguation)" - not relevant in this Paul Anderson case, but, as far as I can see, a gap in the range of templates. PamD (talk) 14:54, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
- There is such a template, called {{otherpeople2}}, but its use is deprecated by Wikipedia:DAB#Links_to_disambiguation_pages:
To link to a disambiguation page (instead of a specific meaning), link to the redirect to the disambiguation page that includes the text "(disambiguation)" in the title (such as, America (disambiguation) rather than America). This helps distinguish accidental links to the disambiguation page from intentional ones. See Category:Redirects to disambiguation pages.
- So when I see {{otherpeople2}} in use, I replace it with {{otherpeople}}. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:59, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
- There is such a template, called {{otherpeople2}}, but its use is deprecated by Wikipedia:DAB#Links_to_disambiguation_pages:
- Ah, thanks, that makes sense. I think! Is there anywhere where policy like that is described, or do we just pick it up as we go along, muddling and being helpfully corrected? I've found WP:DAB and WP:NAMB not quite agreeing, in discussion at Talk:Paul Stewart (musician). PamD (talk) 15:57, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Another editor has added the "{{prod}}" template to the article John Carroll (Irish politician), suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but the editor doesn't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and has explained why in the article (see also Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not and Wikipedia:Notability). Please either work to improve the article if the topic is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia or discuss the relevant issues at its talk page. If you remove the {{prod}} template, the article will not be deleted, but note that it may still be sent to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. BJBot (talk) 02:29, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
- Silly bot. Check who added the PROD tag. -BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:31, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
Here when you say "Contested prod, with explanation offered for removal of prod tag", did you mean to say "... no explanation..."? PamD (talk) 08:42, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
- I did indeed mean "no explanation", and have now fixed it. Thanks for pointing that out. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:15, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
Sources added. OK?? Hans Sentis (talk) 15:30, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
- The Nóirín Ní Riain areticle is now a little better, but I'm afraid that still some way from OKay.
- See Wikipedia:Citing sources for a guide on how to do it.
- A couple of points to bear in mind:
- References should be listed in a specific references section, and should contain only sources actually consulted in writing the article. There may be other material on the person, but that should be listed in a "further reading" section
- To establish Nóirín's notability, you need substantial coverage in sources which are independent of the subject (see WP:BIO). It's not clear whether any of the sources listed meet that test
- Significant or contentious points should be footnoted (see Wikipedia:Citing sources#Footnote_referencing)
- Hope this helps. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:04, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi BHG happy new year to you just wondering did you get the email I sent you regarding the new article I am working on still having trouble with a couple of math formulas thanks. BigDunc (talk) 18:08, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
BHG, this article is protected yet User:R. fiend is using his admin privilages to continue editing he has been warned before about doing this when he is involved in a content dispute on the article.--Padraig (talk) 00:17, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
- I generally think that's OK so long as the edits are trivial and uncontroversial 'and the editor is not more broadly involved in the content dispute. The edit you point looks trivial and uncontroversial to me, but I think it's bad practice to continue editing when the page is protected as a result of a content dispute to which the admin is a party, as seems to be the case here. I don't think that it would help for me to intervene individually, so may I suggest that you raise it at WP:ANI? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:30, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
I have reviewed the above article, which you nominated for as a good article and have placed the article on hold. My concerns can be found on the article's talk page. Cheers, CP 02:26, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Hello Brown Haired One -- It was good to see your name turn up again in a few CFD discussions, though you seem to have shifted your priorities to other areas of late. All the same, you might want to take another look at the CFD for Category:Cultural Enthusiasm, where some interesting -- but very obscure -- names have been proposed. I've signed on in support of one of your suggestions, and I think the discussion would benefit from your input at this juncture. Cgingold (talk) 09:12, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Note regarding User:R. fiend's RFC
Please note, I have acted on the consensus I have seen on the main RfC page, and opened a Request for Arbitration. You may add (brief, 500 words or less) statements Here. Thanks! SirFozzie (talk) 23:21, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I notice you've added the Category:Local councillors in County Sligo to the John Perry (Irish politician) article (and it appears also to the Eamon Scanlon article). Unfortunately, neither of these politicians are local councillors at present, as they are both TDs, and as such are precluded from being councillors at the same time. Is the category for those who are councillors at present, or who were councillors? --The.Q(t)(c) 10:17, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, the Local Government Act 2001 ended the dual mandate, but in common with other categories, there is no distinction between "current" and "former" status. I will label all the sub-categories of Category:Local councillors in the Republic of Ireland to make this clear. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:35, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi, sorry about that, very careless of me. It was an honest mistake and I'll try to avoid making it again. Thanks for correcting it. Cheers, Waggers (talk) 22:59, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
AfD nomination of 1248 in Ireland
An editor has nominated 1248 in Ireland, an article on which you have worked or that you created, for deletion. We appreciate your contributions, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in his/her nomination (see also "What Wikipedia is not").
Your opinions on whether the article meets inclusion criteria and what should be done with the article are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/1248 in Ireland and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~).
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Hi BHG - have you seen this - you may wish to comment. (Your earlier input re 1284 eetc was much appreciated)Ardfern (talk) 20:48, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
- Hi, Ardfern. I made proposal to merge categories Category:Energy in the Republic of Ireland and Category:Energy in Ireland. You are welcome to add your comment here.Beagel (talk) 20:28, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose Merging there is indeed a logic for having these cats separately - one refers to the whole island (ie including Northern Ireland), the other refers to the state of the Republic of Ireland only. To merge them means if you want to find out only about the Republic in one cat, you can't. I accept there is as yet no full separation of all cats in this way, but I have been trying to get them separated for some time. It's the right thing to do, so lets not do the wrong thing, just because we haven't got all cats right yet. Help us get all the other relevant cats separated instead.Ardfern (talk) 20:44, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks. Have coommente at the CfD page. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 22:24, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
- Hi BHG - Exceptionally cool and professional - excellent - you have been working hard! Wondered if the map was a bit ragged though - Dingle peninsula and Inishowen seem to be wandering a bit. But minor point only - happy to see it applied throughout, especially if you can do it automatically. It should also really piss our current critics off - bonus!! Any chance you could do one similar for Northern Ireland, in due course etc etc. Same thing but just with NI map (not in orange or green) and would only have to be applied from 1921 onwards!! Ardfern (talk) 23:21, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
- Just like to endorse everything Ardfern said here; it really is a great template and we should have an equivalent for the sundered six from 1922 :) Sarah777 (talk) 23:19, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks :) The ParserFunctions for templates are a bit of pain to work with, but I think I have finally figured them out enough make it possible to create some halfway-decent templates (my previous efforts required a horrid mishmash of parameters). I'll have a go a Northern Ireland one later this week, once I have cleared my latest round of work on the Seanad. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:50, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
- As Ardfern doesn't want the NI map in orange or green may I suggest blue? Or else the colours lifted from a topographical OS map? Sarah777 (talk) 20:27, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
- hmm. I'm not great at finding graphics, and the only remotely suitable image I can find is Image:NIShape.gif, as used by the {{WPNI}} template. If the green map is acceptable to WP:NIR, I'm not sure that I see the problem, but I'll go with whatever you and Ardfern want. Just find me the image, and I'll use it! --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:15, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
- As Ardfern doesn't want the NI map in orange or green may I suggest blue? Or else the colours lifted from a topographical OS map? Sarah777 (talk) 20:27, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks :) The ParserFunctions for templates are a bit of pain to work with, but I think I have finally figured them out enough make it possible to create some halfway-decent templates (my previous efforts required a horrid mishmash of parameters). I'll have a go a Northern Ireland one later this week, once I have cleared my latest round of work on the Seanad. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:50, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
- Just like to endorse everything Ardfern said here; it really is a great template and we should have an equivalent for the sundered six from 1922 :) Sarah777 (talk) 23:19, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
- Hey, glad you like {{YearInIrelandNav}}! I first promised to do this almost a month ago, so I felt a bit guilty about taking so long to do it. As you may have noticed, it auto-calculates the decades etc, to make it easier to use, and it only links to categories and years-in-NI articles if they actually exist. (Wish I had figured out before how to do this for other similar templates!)
- Not sure there is much I can do about the map. Image:IrelandShape.gif a GIF, which is bit-mapped, and therefore doesn't scale neatly. I did find a scalable map on commons (see Image:Ireland.svg, thumb at right) but it has two problems: a) a mid-blue background, which wouldn't fit the template's colour scheme, and b) a line marking the border, which would be an anachronism on the pre-1922 articles. I'm not great at graphics, but if anyone could edit it to make the background transparent and remove the border, it'd be great to use it.
- I think a Northern Irl equiv is a good idea, but there's a lot of work yet in rolling out this one. Can u remind me again when this one is all in place?--BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:10, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
- Aha! I found Image:Blank Ireland.svg, which has neither border nor sea. The thumbnail on the left is the size that would fit in the template, and I think it looks fine, so I will use it in {{YearInIrelandNav}}. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:23, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
Folks, you might (or might not) be interested in this discussion Sarah777 (talk) 23:17, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
In case anyone is looking for me, I thought I should explain I'm afraid that I don't I don't expect to be around much in the next few days.
My laptop has chosen to develop a severe disabillity in its power supply just at the point when I was rebuilding my desktop, so I currently have access to the web only in the laptop's increasingly rare moments of lucidity, or temporarily in test builds of the desktop.
Once the penguin has made itself at home, I expect to be back in business as usual ... except that I haven't figured out yet how to run BHGbot without windoze, so that'll probably have to wait until the laptop is back from hospital. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:10, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Please visit the Sima Mafiha page and help to extend the article. I found little info about her. I am afraid that she could be forgotten at all. I think she desrves much more attention. What do you think of that?--Faikpro (talk) 01:57, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi, BrownHairedGirl. We're talking about divvying up Portal work over at WT:GS#Portal proposal. User:Grrrlriot said she'd take feminism or Portal:Women, but I thought since you voiced interest in the Women portal, maybe you'd like to start that (no obligation), Grrrl could do feminism and I'd start Gender studies. What do you think? Phyesalis (talk) 03:38, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
BH, could you take a peek at Category:11th century in Ireland and Category:Years of the 11st century in Ireland; I think your bot has a lithp :) Sarah777 (talk) 10:09, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
- Actually, it was a glitch in template {{IrelandByYear}}, which is now fixed. Thanks for pointing it out! --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:01, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Emperor00 (talk · contribs), presumed, based on behavior. Although he's confined himself to talk pages thus far. Choess (talk) 23:02, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
- It's a bit tedious, but at least it is restricted to talk pages. Emperor00 (talk · contribs) could of course be blocked as a sock, but I'm not sure whether that's needed yet. Pls let me know what you think. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:06, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, unfortunately, it's needed now. See recent contribs. Sorry. Choess (talk) 03:08, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
- You're right, it's another Burkem sock, back at the old games. Now indef-blocked. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 04:22, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, unfortunately, it's needed now. See recent contribs. Sorry. Choess (talk) 03:08, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
BHG can you block this vandal [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kriss_Cross_Cry Kriss c
Cross Cry] he is repeatly vandaling the Derry article and others.---Padraig (talk) 23:11, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
What exactly would you like to see done with the article to improve it's notability? I'll look to see what reliable sources I can find on the subject. Is there anything else you have in mind? It's a real important music reseller in the Contemporary Christian music industry, and I just added it to Wikipedia:WikiProject Christian music. Royalbroil 19:50, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
- See Wikipedia:Notability and in particular Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies), which is linked from the tag on the article. It needs evidence of substantial coverage in secondary sources which are intellectually independent of the subject, but the only references so far is a link to the business itself. For example, you claim that "it's a real important music reseller in the Contemporary Christian music industry" — is there any independent evidence from reliable sources that this is the case? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 20:57, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
- That was the direction that I was planning to head with it, as you probably were guessing looking at my profile. I know that my statement doesn't mean much without being backed up. I'll work on it, so please give me some time to address these issues before you nom for its deletion. Royalbroil 22:26, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
- Y Done I think that my using a RS to cite that it is the largest Christian retailer in the world should easily meet the notability standards, so I removed the notability tag. I found 2 other sources that call it the largest Christian retailer in the U.S. and they can be found in the article's history. I used 3 high profile reliable sources to source everything that remains. I added the article to my watchlist. Royalbroil 03:23, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
- Good work! --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 16:08, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
- Y Done I think that my using a RS to cite that it is the largest Christian retailer in the world should easily meet the notability standards, so I removed the notability tag. I found 2 other sources that call it the largest Christian retailer in the U.S. and they can be found in the article's history. I used 3 high profile reliable sources to source everything that remains. I added the article to my watchlist. Royalbroil 03:23, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
- That was the direction that I was planning to head with it, as you probably were guessing looking at my profile. I know that my statement doesn't mean much without being backed up. I'll work on it, so please give me some time to address these issues before you nom for its deletion. Royalbroil 22:26, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
I see you have a history of working on the article George Fletcher. I am looking at it from the project Wikipedia:Unreferenced articles where it is one of the longest {{unreferenced}} tagged articles that does not meet at least the barest minimum of verifiability. It has been tagged and completely without references since June 2006. It would be extremely helpful if you had some references you could add to the article to help support its verifiability and notability. Thanks for any help you can give. Jeepday (talk) 14:16, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for your msg. As you'll see, my previous edits to that articles were minor tweaks like categorisation, but I have just added refs for most of the main points, and will ask someone with Debretts or Burkes to ref the family points. Notability is established per WP:BIO through the automatic presumption of notability for members of national parliaments. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 16:07, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
Now I know you have forgotten about something
Hello again. I trust that your master has given you permission to return to our conversation in that little siding we were talking about? For I am on the verge of archiving it, and that could complicate things a little. By the way, I hope that the evil specimens of technology in your possession will not create any more problems with regards to your editing.
Oh, and I have an extra lure: an Ireland-related question. You can't miss that one... (Evil grin) Waltham, The Duke of 15:57, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
- Come on, I know you cannot resist... Just come... Question... Please... Waltham, The Duke of 16:45, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
You may be interested in this. --The.Q(t)(c) 16:49, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
- I saw those two different spelling articles some time ago but was not sure which was correct, as seems to be the case even now, and left it for someone else to do. I was not bold enough. Cheers ww2censor (talk) 16:54, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
- I have now moved it to Markievicz Park; see diuscussion at Talk:Markievicz Park. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:03, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
I wonder if you have anything you could offer here: Wikipedia talk:Requests for arbitration/The Troubles#Recent Block of Vk by SirFozzie. Rockpocket 18:06, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi BHG i was wondering if your bot could do a small job on Category:Gaelic Athletic Association competitions, and remove Gaelic Athletic Association competitions if either the article is in Category:Hurling competitions or Category:Gaelic football competitions and removed from Category:GAA County Championships if in one of the sub categories Gnevin (talk) 23:02, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
- Bot is out of action at the noment, but in any case isn't authorised for this sort of task.
- However, I have done it mnaually. Muvh bigger job than I thought, because there were mnuktiple levels of overcategorisation, but all sorted now. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:01, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
- Ok ,didn't realise the bot couldn't do that , is it your just bot what isn't authorised or bots in general ? Any way thanks for all the great work. I agree the categories where a mess been working on them all night to still lots too do Gnevin (talk) 23:08, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
- Difft bot are authorised for difft tasks, and my BHGbot is authorised only for wikiproject tagging. I coukd ask for permission for other tasks, but not much point until it's running again (if/when I get a windoze PC again).
- Anyway, the categories are looking better now, so more power to your elbow polishing them further! --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:29, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
- Ok ,didn't realise the bot couldn't do that , is it your just bot what isn't authorised or bots in general ? Any way thanks for all the great work. I agree the categories where a mess been working on them all night to still lots too do Gnevin (talk) 23:08, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Looks as if this baronetcy could do with linking up. Current Baronet is Richard Carew Pole. Best wishes Vernon White . . . Talk 19:03, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for the pinter. See Pole Baronets, just created. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 06:17, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
FYI there is a dedicated page at Wikipedia talk:Requests for arbitration/The Troubles/Enforcement requests, shortcut WP:TER. Tyrenius (talk) 21:18, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks. I have commented there. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs)
The new Category:Gaelic Athletic Association cups is currently a subcat only of Category:Gaelic Athletic Association. Shouldn't it instead be a subcat of Category:Gaelic Athletic Association competitions? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 06:22, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
- No i don't think so as the Cups are the prise given not the competitions ie the Sam Maguire Cup is not the same as the All-Ireland Senior Football Championship, maybe a note in the Category could clear this up.A lot of the GAA cup's don't have a seperate article for the cup only but are a cup/competitions article. Gnevin (talk) 08:22, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi. As someone who has edited the Inniscrone and/or Enniscrone page recently, you may be interested in this. Regards, --The.Q(t)(c) 15:49, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
So i've created Category:Hurling clubs in Ireland by county and Category:Gaelic football clubs in Ireland by county . Now i've also defined Category:Gaelic Athletic Association clubs but the more i think about it I think that Category:Gaelic Athletic Association clubs in Ireland by county is pointless as the two above now do a better job . What do you think ? Gnevin (talk) 22:31, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
- I'm not sure :)
- I have done some tweaking of parent categories (some cats were only single-parented), and when I see where we end up, I think that on balance I'd be inclined to leave it. I know that there are no-other by-sport subcats of Category:Sport in Ireland by county, but the GAA is organised on a 32-county basis, so it does seem to me to have a certain logic to it. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs)
WT:EL discussion about linking to map services
Hello BHG. I noticed your comment in this discussion. If you prefer not to go into this on your User talk, there is no need to respond. But, due to my concern that the thread we had both joined there was not working at a very collaborative level, I started to wonder if any more factual points could be mustered. This puts me at a disadvantage since I hardly ever use any of these map links. I just remember my own annoyance and personal experience with the ISBN situation, which I circumvent with my own monobook. If you use maps, do you think it might be possible to prepare some more convincing examples, that we could put in front of the participants at WT:EL? Otherwise it'll probably come down to a war of personal preferences, and lead to a non-terminating discussion. I agree 100% with your point about usability, but don't know how to exhibit that in more precise detail. In particular, I didn't understand why you said:
Don't get me wrong, this system is a great idea; it's just that it still has such poor useability that it is grossly premature to force its use to the exclusion of all other methods..
I don't know what other methods you believe to be realistic options to consider. EdJohnston (talk) 05:50, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for your msg. I have commented further at Wikipedia talk:External links, where (as you can see) I have become very exasperated at Para's repeated and arrogant dismissal of user feedback.
- I'm not sure what i can come up by way of more examples, other than what might arise out of systematic usability testing, and it's not my job to organise that!
- I think, though, that we are in danger of inverting the burden of proof. Para insists that the GeoHack system is so good that it should replace all other external links to map services, and so far there are no other users supporting that view. That's my main concern in this discussion: not how to perfect the GeoHack system, or whether there is a definitive account of its failings, but the fact that the feedback is that the GeoHack is not yet sufficiently usable to justify the removal of all other map links. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:02, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Look what they are doing now.... Category:999 in Ireland ...and so on with many more years. Sarah777 (talk) 20:02, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Howdy! I just spotted this revert. Personally, I believe the previous edit was correct: the coordinates both within that section as well as inserted at the top-right of the article provide the necessary links and do not lend any explicit preferance to one service over another. In my opinion, keeping the Terraserver link is a slippery slope to a complete enumeration of Google Maps/Earth, Yahoo, MS Live, etc... Your thoughts? Just to make sure I notice the response, I would appreciate a response on my user page. Cheers! --Bossi (talk • gallery • contrib) 05:33, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
- See the lengthy discussion at WT:EL#Links_to_map_services, where there is no consensus for the mass removal by User:Para of all direct links to maps (so far as I can see, there is clear consensus against doing so unless and until the usability of the GeoHack system is improved). In this particular case, the GeoHack link does not appear to allow me to replicate the aerial photo shown in the Terraserver link, so it seems to me to be both a useful addition and a handy alternative to the badly-designed GeoHack system.
- I am aware of the slippery slope arguments, and find them unpersuasive: there is only a single link here, and I have yet to see any evidence that including one map/aerial photo link is leading to a massive listings of all possible services. (I suspect it has probably happened on a few occasions, but if so they are rare). While the GeoHack system has such poor usability, there is clear user benefit in having one or two direct links, to help the reader access a map or aerial image without having to confront a unexplained and badly-designed 13-screenful list of links. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 16:26, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
- Just FYI, there seems to be some discussion relating to this at WP:AN/I#BrownHairedGirl involved in tendentious and disruptive editing. – Luna Santin (talk) 07:25, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for the pointer (I should of course have been notified by the editor who made the ANI complaint) . I have replied at ANI. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 16:08, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
After reading AN/I, I am even more puzzled by your edit diff at Aberdeen Exhibition and Conference Centre. You seem to have wanted to change the scale of the map from showing where AECC is in Aberdeen to showing where it is in Aberdeenshire. Was this your intention or were you attempting to change on grounds of a perceived policy? Thincat (talk) 14:02, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
- My intention was solely to revert the Para's removal of links to external maps. There was no indication in the edit summary that any other change had been made by Para, and I was not aware that the resolution was affected. I have reinstated the "|type:landmark" parameter to restore the change in resolution. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 16:11, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
- But so far as I can see he had not removed a link to an external map. All he had done is add a scale to an existing link and you reverted the scale. However, his edit summary was misleading (for other reasons). The coordinates had been added much earlier diff by someone else. Perhaps you had only looked at his edit summary and not read the article. Thincat (talk) 16:54, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
- Para did remove a map link: see the diff. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 17:20, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
- But so far as I can see he had not removed a link to an external map. All he had done is add a scale to an existing link and you reverted the scale. However, his edit summary was misleading (for other reasons). The coordinates had been added much earlier diff by someone else. Perhaps you had only looked at his edit summary and not read the article. Thincat (talk) 16:54, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
I saw this yesterday and assumed that as it had not been reverted it was a good edit. So I started, using AWB, to remove the links to it from various articles. I did 100+ before stopping and followed up with another 90 today before I noticed that the link was working again. I checked the template and saw this. At that point I saw the above, the ANI and the EL discussions. I can't just roll them back as there were other valid edits made to some of the articles. Fixing the "coord" template, references, spelling, etc. However, I do have the list of the ones I did and am willing to restore the WikiMapia template if you think it would be best. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather Have a gorilla 20:16, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
- If you have the energy, I think that they should be restored, because a direct link to the map is much easier to use than the clunky GeoHack ssytem. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 20:32, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
- Well they are all put back. This certainly shows that there is a problem with WIkipedia being too spread out. I made over 400 edits to remove/replace that template and only one person asked what I was doing. There needs to be some way for editors to see what is being discussed without having to look across multiple pages but I couldn't say how to do that. CambridgeBayWeather Have a gorilla 08:50, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
- If you're interested, have a look at the long running argument between ScottHatton, myself and Para/SEWilco on the GEO talk page. Completely unrelated debate but seems to have followed much the same lines as yours. :/ Orderinchaos 11:07, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
Hello. If you've a moment, can you take a look at this article? This was just created tonight, and I know that it's author did not create it as a joke---it was created more to prove a point (if you look here [], you will see what I mean by that). Though not intended as a joke, I certainly do not believe this is anything that can be taken seriously. Before I prod it or take it to AfD, I would like the opinion of an uninvolved party. Thanks for your time. Cheers! ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 03:57, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
- Delete with extreme prejudice as a neologism. None of the refs contain the term "weedpunk". --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 04:16, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
- Exactly! There simply is no such literary subgenre called Weedpunk. This is just made up nonsense, and most of the content of the article has nothing to do with the putative subject. Does this qualify for a speedy? Or does it have to go to AfD? ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 04:20, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
- I don't know who changed this but here is my response: Please look at the facts. Many movements, specifically within the spheres of drug and counterculture, were not defined by any of the sources that contributed to the movement. For example: Jack Kerouac, the Beat Generation, and more issues within 1960s counterculture. The same thing applies to literary works such as news fanfiction, where the author takes on the role of a reporter during a specific fictional story. Perhaps the most famous example of this is in the now mainstream The Onion, but even it goes back as early as the first (literally translated) 'role story' of Walther von der Vogelweide's Lied under Linden. Of course, other editors can help me better than me a lone and further improve the Weedpunk article, but I do not believe it should be 'speedy' deleted. --Banime (talk) 12:54, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
- If you want to keep it, you'll need to produce some persuasive evidence in reliable sources that the concept is notable, but so far there is no such evidence. You may well be able to write an interesting essay, but the article so far looks like original research. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:19, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
- I have to say I was most stuck by Google only finding 8 hits for Weedpunk none of which gave any support at all for this being a literary genre. - Galloglass 14:24, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
- If you want to keep it, you'll need to produce some persuasive evidence in reliable sources that the concept is notable, but so far there is no such evidence. You may well be able to write an interesting essay, but the article so far looks like original research. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:19, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
- I don't know who changed this but here is my response: Please look at the facts. Many movements, specifically within the spheres of drug and counterculture, were not defined by any of the sources that contributed to the movement. For example: Jack Kerouac, the Beat Generation, and more issues within 1960s counterculture. The same thing applies to literary works such as news fanfiction, where the author takes on the role of a reporter during a specific fictional story. Perhaps the most famous example of this is in the now mainstream The Onion, but even it goes back as early as the first (literally translated) 'role story' of Walther von der Vogelweide's Lied under Linden. Of course, other editors can help me better than me a lone and further improve the Weedpunk article, but I do not believe it should be 'speedy' deleted. --Banime (talk) 12:54, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
- Exactly! There simply is no such literary subgenre called Weedpunk. This is just made up nonsense, and most of the content of the article has nothing to do with the putative subject. Does this qualify for a speedy? Or does it have to go to AfD? ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 04:20, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Now nominated for deletion: see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Weedpunk. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:27, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
- Talk about sock puppet central! I've never seen so many being created by one individual. At least the centenarian puppets were generated by more than one person. Is it possible to expedite the AfD as its now an obvious hoax BHG? Or do we have to let it run its course? - Galloglass 00:07, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
- Without checkuser, it;s hard to be sure that they are socks. They could be meatpuppets.
- AS the nominator, I can't close the AfD, but someone else may close it early per WP:SNOW. However, I wouldn't mind it running on, just to see if the author can provide any refs :) --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:29, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
- I think you're being optimistic but ok I won't ask for it to be Snowballed and we'll see where it takes us..... ;) - Galloglass 01:37, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
- Sorry, I wasn't v clear in my last comment. I don't expect any refs either ... it's just that my evil twin likes the idea of watching Banime offering every possible keep reason except the references which are the only thing that could save the article. It doesn't matter how many SPAs pitch up, no refs=no keep. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:45, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
- I must admit, I am finding this whole thing rather funny. ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 19:42, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
- My evil twin is obviously a bad influence on you :) --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs)
- Possibly. And, I must say, I needn't any encouragement! ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 02:59, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
Hi, currently there are two categories for Sinn Féin politicians, Category:Irish Sinn Féin politicians and Category:Sinn Féin politicians.
Irish Sinn Féin politicians is for those 'who were members of the original Sinn Féin party in the early 20th century (1905–1926)' and Sinn Féin politicians is for those 'who are, or were, members of the Sinn Féin, an Irish republican party in Ireland, originally founded in 1905 and established in its present form as Provisional Sinn Féin in 1970.'
This is a bit confusing for anyone not familiar with the history of Sinn Féin and all the splits in the party. I propose leaving the Category:Sinn Féin politicians as it is, being populated by modern politicians. The other category could be renamed Category:Sinn Féin politicians (1905-26), since at that stage the pro and anti treaty factions had left to join Cumann na nGaedhael and Fianna Fáil at that stage. But then what about the rump that was left, do we need another category for 1927-69? Any thoughts? Snappy56 (talk) 19:27, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
- Good point.
- Category:Irish Sinn Féin politicians is one a series of poorly named categories which were created two years ago by a clueless newbie who should be suitably chastised; they all used the format "Irish foo politicians", even though the "irish" was in most cases tautological (FF, SF, FG etc don't organise outside Ireland). Most of them were renamed at CfD on 10 Nov 2007, but I omitted "Irish SF politicians" from that nomination partly because I hadn't thought through the solution.
- You are right in your description of the usage of Category:Irish Sinn Féin politicians, but I'm not so sure about the suggested renaming to Category:Sinn Féin politicians (1905-26) — that doesn't seem to me to adequately account for the 1922-26 period.
- The difficult bit is, as you say, post-1922. For the 3rd Dáil, the Oireachtas Members database describes the anti-treaty TDs as Sinn Féin (Anti Treaty) members of the 3rd Dáil, but for the 4th Dáil they have Republican members of the 4th Dáil and in the 5th Dáil (after the foundation of FF) they have Fianna Fáil members of the 5th Dáil and Sinn Féin members of the 5th Dáil for the rump who didn't join FF.
- It might be best to start with identifiable separate periods and see which could be combined.
- 1905-1922, which can be straightforwardly called Sinn Féin, but needs some dismabiguation
- 1922-23 what the Oireachtas calls Sinn Féin (Anti Treaty)
- 1923-26 what the Oireachtas calls "Republican"
- 1923-1969 what the Oireachtas calls Sinn Féin
- 1969-1977, when there were Official SF elected politicians (such as Joe Sherlock); can't remember whether the Provisionals were contesting elections in that period
- Post 1977, after OSF became SFWP, when there was only one body calling itself plain SF
- I note that the Wikipedia article Members of the 4th Dáil calls the anti-treaty TDs just "Sinn Fein", which seems at odds with the Oireachtas database's uses of "Republican".
- Not quite sure what to do with all this, but I think that a wider discuussion would be useful to get more views on a subject which is likely to the the difft sides of the debate on Republican legitimatism. Would it be OK with you if I repost this thread to WT:IE? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:55, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
- Don't be too hard on clueless newbies, they can turn into fine Wikipedians over time! I wonder why the Oireachtas db calls the ant-Treaty faction from 1923-26 Republican? Surely they were still Sinn Féin (or Anti-Treaty Sinn Féin)? Anyway please repost this at WT:IE in order to canvass more opinions. Snappy56 (talk) 14:45, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
You're right, not much interest there, so we better sort it out ourselves. Any renamings will have to through WP:CFD, but new categories can just be created, so I suggest that you and I continue the discussion at WT:IE and see where get to. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:43, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
I've made a point about custom edit summaries in an ANI thread. See here. Notification left because the thread was previously marked "resolved" (I've removed the resolved label as I felt the issue is not resolved). Comments would be welcomed. Carcharoth (talk) 01:22, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
I'm back. Well, I've never really left, as I still use Wikipedia, The "Free" Encyclopedia which only Admins like you have a voice in and the rest of us just create stupid little stubs, for school projects etc.
Where should I begin? First off, I want to wish you a HAPPY GROUNDHOG DAY from Pennsylvania (though nowhere near Punxatawney). Second I appreciate your recent edits to -- except a certain group. A very large group.
You know what I'm referring to. And I'm sure you are thinking "Better block this sock immediately." (Hey - it rhymes!) That's the position of other Administrators who look at my block log, see that I created a sockpuppet, and automatically block me without a reason. (I'm talking about you, Sandstein.)
I could have chosen him to send this message to. But he isn't the main case involved in this bizzarre wiki-drama. And with my indefinate block by Luna Santin, most of it stopped.
But this is far from over.
Robert Young still is disrupting Wikipedia through Bart Versieck. And I wouldn't blame him. He is indefinably blocked and he has no chance of being unblocked--UNLESS you listen to this.
He was blocked for disruption. He disrupted Wikipedia. I was blocked for sockpuppetry/disruption. The sockpuppetry will be discussed further down, and I disrupted Wikipedia. You, however, have disrupted Wikipedia about as much as we have and you have not been blocked. Interesting.
I consider myself calm now. We are all here trying to build Wikipedia. Young and I have just got furious over you (and others) destroying some of our well-sourced content that we spent a while on TRYING TO BUILD AN ENCYCLOPEDIA.
This is one of the most unusual and little-documented chapters of Wikipedia history. The first AfD at the List of <insert nationality here> Supercentenarians atracted far too few editors for such an important case that it should have remained open until actual consensus was reached. (Note: you deleted several of my articles claiming that consensus was reached to delete. Since so little editors contibuted in the discussion -- and I know if Robert Young could edit that he certainly would have pushed it to a keep-- it was actually a no consensus, default to keep.)
To the sockpuppet stuff: I did create sockpuppets after my block. YGM and IBYB were two of my friends sharing my computer. I created the sockpuppets because my talk page was unjustly protected. (Hey, what else am I supposed to do besides post the unblock template on my talk page when I was unjustly blocked?) Besides, people keep telling me to email you. I CAN'T! There is something wrong with my e-mail stuff. Therefore, this is the only way I can get my thoughts out.
My point is: It's been a month, I'm willing to contribute constructively again (I really never did stop), and at the very least can you unblock my main account so I can file a request for arbitration agaist you. Sure, I could use this account, but it probably wouldn't be taken so well. Delete this, block me, but please understand that this will still appear in the edit history.
All the same, I just wish that you could do something about this. Have a nice Day. Kit3 (talk) 02:22, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
- Kitia, you were blocked for sockpuppetry. Continuing to create new sockpuppets doesn't help your case.
- If you want to be unblocked, try emailing your request to unblock-en-l@lists.wikimedia.org. However, be sure to follow the detailed instructions on what to include in your email at Wikipedia:Appealing a block, or your request will be ignored.
- You're free to ask to be unblocked, but I can't see you getting very far until your attitude changes. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 03:50, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
I populated the models subcats you and created additional ones to fill the sets. You might want to look. Hmains (talk) 23:48, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
The entry for Noel Browne on the said page has a speedy tag on it. Could you remove it? bibliomaniac15 01:10, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks. It arose because I had mistakenly created a duplicate template Template:Socialist Labour Party/meta/shortname, which I have now deleted. Template:Socialist Labour Party (Ireland)/meta/shortname was the one I wanted. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:23, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
Hey, thanks for all your help earlier on weedpunk. Too bad it didn't work out. Anyway, could you look at Fat Acceptance Movement. I think it should be up for deletion, there is no sources that mention the movement, few sources in general, and what I believe is original research or at best non-notable neologism. Thanks! --Banime (talk) 16:30, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
- Hmm. I have just read the article, and it's not quite the same situation as the weedpunk article. The Fat Acceptance Movement article does show some evidence in secondary sources of advocacy for obese people, but not enough, and I don't see references offering evidence for the use of that precise term.
- A google search for "Fat Acceptance Movement" -wikipedia gives over 12,000 hits, which is quite a contrast with the single-figure results for weedpunk. So I think it's likely that that this could be made into a properly-sourced article which demonstrates notability, but it's not there yet. I would suggest for now that article be tagged with {{notability}}, and that the unreferenced assertions in the opening section should be tagged with {{fact}} tags.
- Obviously, you are entitled to make an AFD nomination if you prefer, but since there does seem to be a reasonable possibility of notability, I suggest that it would be much better all round to start by tagging the article for improvement. An AFD nomination at this stage, without giving time to at least check out those 12,300 ghits would probably be seen as some sort of sour grapes from you over the Weedpunk deletion. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:30, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for the help, I'll tag it for notability and work on citations --Banime (talk) 18:51, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
- Hi to both of you. Banime, I realize you are new but you should really start out on Wikipedia doing more minor things, or working to expand articles. You are too new to go looking for articles to question or delete. You are taking an article that has existed since 2002, and for which there is a good deal of research, time, edits through the years, a reading list and bibliography, that is part of an infobox template, and for which there are numerous hits. You are googling "Fat Acceptance Movement" and you are finding plenty of hits, but you need to be googling "Fat Acceptance" where you will find organizations, websites, news stories, blogs, etc. BrownHairedGirl, could you please coach Banime more into doing things that won't be disruptive here on the Project - otherwise, he is bound to get his hand bitten by someone with less patience if he goes around questioning whether long, old, sourced articles should be deleted. --David Shankbone 19:08, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
- I agree that it woukd be better for Banime to focus on creating content, but nonetheless Banime is right to note problems with the Fat Acceptance Movement article. I have just added to it a few more {{fact}} tags and a {{notability}} tag. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:09, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
- Hi to both of you. Banime, I realize you are new but you should really start out on Wikipedia doing more minor things, or working to expand articles. You are too new to go looking for articles to question or delete. You are taking an article that has existed since 2002, and for which there is a good deal of research, time, edits through the years, a reading list and bibliography, that is part of an infobox template, and for which there are numerous hits. You are googling "Fat Acceptance Movement" and you are finding plenty of hits, but you need to be googling "Fat Acceptance" where you will find organizations, websites, news stories, blogs, etc. BrownHairedGirl, could you please coach Banime more into doing things that won't be disruptive here on the Project - otherwise, he is bound to get his hand bitten by someone with less patience if he goes around questioning whether long, old, sourced articles should be deleted. --David Shankbone 19:08, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for the help, I'll tag it for notability and work on citations --Banime (talk) 18:51, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
BH, why is this still open? It is an obvious FAIL due to 'no consensus' with a strong 'keep' majority. Yet is is still open while those all around it are closed. I am suspicious that something may be afoot. Sarah777 (talk) 00:23, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
- Sadly and bizarrely, it was closed as "merge". See my comments at User talk:Angusmclellan#Year_in_Ireland_CfD_closure. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:49, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
Hi, it's me, the anon who edited the Bill Phillips disambig to include a William Phillips. I agree that you were totally justified in deleting it. The only reason I added that William Phillips is that I have actually met him, and he was referred to exclusively as Bill. Should I suggest a move? Or do you think that info is too unsupported. Anyway, thanks for your time, and thanks for cleaning up any confusion I produced!--66.65.125.206 (talk) 02:07, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for being so nice about my removal of yr addition :)
- As to whether the article concerned should be renamed, I think that the important question is what he is known as to the general public, because that's how people will look for his article. If he is called Bill by his friends and family, but William in his professional life, then William is the name to use. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:11, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Hello,
I hope you don't mind but I randomly came across Template:YearInIrelandNav, seemed like a really good idea so I copied it and created Template:YearInPakistanNav - but there appears to be a problem somewhere, for example 1981 in Ireland lists the decades in the navbox - however the link for "2000s" actually goes to Category:1960s in Ireland.
Cheers
Pahari Sahib14:28, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
- Woulkd you like me to edit the Template:YearInPakistanNav to see if I can fix the problem? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 16:22, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
- Actually, it was a very small glitch in both, a minus sign where there should be a plus sign, so I have gone ahead and fixed both the Irish template and the Pakistan template. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 16:37, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
- Cool, you've already done it thanks :-), I was going to say you don't have to - just do the Ireland one and I'll be able to figure it, but thanks again. One question though why is the Ireland template protected? - I can't see any vandalism on it? *Curious* Pahari Sahib 16:41, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
- Oh, and I also changed to border color to #006500, to match the color of the Pakistan flag. Hope that's OK. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 16:37, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
- Fine with me :-) Pahari Sahib16:42, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
- Glad that was Ok.
- As to why the Irish template is protected, it's as protective measure, something often done for high-visibility templates (see Wikipedia:High-risk templates). An edit to a template such as {{YearInIrelandNav}} affects hundreds of articles, and if the edit broke the categorisation it would remove all the year-in-Ireland articles from the appropriate categories. Better to protect templates such as this rather than leave them open as a damage-lots-of-articles-in-one-edit target for vandals. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:08, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
- Fine with me :-) Pahari Sahib16:42, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
- Oh I see, never knew that could happen!
Pahari Sahib18:58, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
- Oh I see, never knew that could happen!