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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
The ORES review tool is now available on Special:Contributions as a beta feature. It can make it easier to find contributions that are probably damaging the wikis. The ORES review tool is available on Wikidata and Persian, Polish, Portuguese, Dutch, Turkish and Russian Wikipedia.
The norm and ccnorm functions have been updated to make it easier to write abuse filters. This also affects the TitleBlacklist extension. You don't have to transform "I" and "L" to "1", "O" to "0" and "S" to "5" anymore.
The old pageview data in the "pagecounts-raw" and "pagecounts-all-sites" files is no longer being updated. You can find the new pageview data here. This happened on August 5.
Problems
Some big image files could not be thumbnailed. This has now been fixed.
When you moved a page over a redirect it would delete the redirect without saving it in the logs. This has now been fixed.
Changes this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 23 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 24 August. It will be on all wikis from 25 August (calendar).
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 23 August at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
Sometimes when you mention another user they don't get a notification. You will be able to get a notification when you successfully sent out a mention to someone or be told if they did not get a notification. This will be opt-in. You can test this on the test wiki.
How you add text after an edit conflict might work in a different way in the future. You can test the prototype.
Hi, my entry for FishUSA was declined for lack of sources. I was wondering how many sources I need for it to be approved? Also, can cited sources be in print, or do they have to be found on the internet? I look forward to hearing back from you soon. Thank you!
Hello. It depends. You need enough reliable sources to establish verifiability and notability. Also, cited sources do not have to come from only the Internet. They can also come from printed material. —MRD2014 (talk) (contribs) 16:21, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
Analog Clocks too exist on Wikipedia if you want to add them. Over here - {{Analog Clock}}{{Analog Clock 2}}{{Analog Clock 3}}{{Analog Clock 4}}VarunFEB2003I am Offline 15:39, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
Ya I know because I onlymade that too! VarunFEB2003I am Offline 18:08, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
Page mover
Hello, MRD2014. Your account has been granted the "extendedmover" user right, either following a request for it or demonstrating familiarity with working with article names and moving pages. You are now able to rename pages without leaving behind a redirect, and move subpages when moving the parent page(s).
Please take a moment to review Wikipedia:Page mover for more information on this user right, especially the criteria for moving pages without leaving redirect. Please remember to follow post-move cleanup procedures and make link corrections where necessary, including broken double-redirects when suppressredirect is used. This can be done using Special:WhatLinksHere. It is also very important that no one else be allowed to access your account, so you should consider taking a few moments to secure your password. As with all user rights, be aware that if abused, or used in controversial ways without consensus, your page mover status can be revoked.
If you do not want the page mover right anymore, post here, or just let me know. Thank you, and happy editing! ~ Rob13Talk 17:25, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
Granted with the understanding that talk page messages will be left to prevent confusion from new editors. Relying on the move log to direct new users to their pages isn't that solid of a strategy, imo. ~ Rob13Talk 17:25, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
@BU Rob13: Thank you for granting me with the page mover right. I do agree with leaving messages for users as a courtesy when userfying their pages or moving them to the draft space, and also to notify them so that they're not confused. —MRD2014 (talk) (contribs) 20:37, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
As an interesting side note, I wonder whether the move log is easily visible on mobile browsers... ~ Rob13Talk 20:58, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
I meant from the POV of trying to access the previous page's location. You had mentioned the red box at PERM, but I doubt that's fully visible on mobile browsers. This isn't relevant to your user right, by the way, I'm just curious now. I'll take a look tomorrow when I'm stuck on a bus for a couple hours. ~ Rob13Talk 21:03, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
I honestly believe that this article has significant coverage. The topic meets the notability guidelines and my references are true.
If you want to re-submit it, go right ahead, but I'll let someone else review so that you get reviews from multiple people. —MRD2014 (talk) (contribs) 13:48, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
Pageswap script for convenience
Hi MDR2014, thought I'd let you know that I've written a script here (js) that semi-automates round-robin moves for convenience, and thought you may want to try it out. You'd simply click "Swap" and enter a page destination, the script performs the 3 moves as necessary (saves time having to manually go through the move form 3 times). (It doesn't correct redirects afterwards, that's still manual)
Anyway feel free to adapt this script as you see fit, cheers:) — Andy W.(talk ·ctb) 15:36, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
Wikimedia mobile sites now don't load images if the user doesn't see them. This is to save mobile data and make the pages load faster.
When you edit a table with the visual editor, pressing Tab in the last cell of a row will take you to the first cell in the next row. Pressing Shift and Tab in the first cell of a row will take you to the last cell in the previous row.
Changes this week
The name of the "Save page" button will change. The button will say "Publish page" when you create a new page. It will say "Publish changes" when you change an existing page.
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 30 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 31 August. It will be on all wikis from 1 September (calendar).
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 30 August at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Good morning, I Hope you are well. My Draft of an english Langley Holdings plc page has been declined apparently it reads to much like an advertisement (even though nothing is being sold) the copy is a direct translation of an already existing page. I had the German Langley Holdings page translated into English (the pne you declined) how do i proceed if a review of your decision is not possible what changes would you suggest to get the article online?
Hello Nickm94. Advertising on Wikipedia has nothing to do with something being sold (see Wikipedia:Spam). It does appear that you removed the peacock words, but the submission is currently unreferenced. It will not be accepted without references. —MRD2014 (talk) (contribs) 20:31, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
I added reliable references in the article page and i can still see "proposed deletion"
i would like your help to remove it from the page, --Danwalizey (talk) 03:43, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
@Danwalizey: I did remove it. David.moreno72 later added a speedy deletion template, which you may not remove. You can click the "Contest this speedy deletion" button if you disagree. —MRD2014 (talk) (contribs) 11:47, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
Word-level diffs now work in longer paragraphs.
Interactive maps now have a frame by default. This is to make them look like other multimedia objects. This affects all Wikivoyages, the Catalan, Hebrew, Macedonian Wikipedias and Meta.
When you preview the MediaWiki:Captcha-ip-whitelist page it will show a validation output of the listed IP addresses instead of the list of addresses only. This can help you to identify if your whitelist rules will work or not.
Changes this week
You will be able to use <maplink> on all Wikipedias. It creates a link to a full screen map.
Sometimes when you mention another user they don't get a notification. You will be able to get a notification when you successfully send out a mention to someone or be told if they did not get a notification. This will be opt-in.
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 6 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 7 September. It will be on all wikis from 8 September (calendar).
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 6 September at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Whats wrong with my edits? How are they a spam link? i only inserted them once in my edits —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alliance Uchiha (talk • contribs) 01:10, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
@Alliance Uchiha: Per Wikipedia:External links#Restrictions on linking, it is generally not a good idea to link to YouTube videos because there is the possibility of violating copyright. That section says "Knowingly directing others to material that violates copyright might be considered contributory copyright infringement". —MRD2014 (talk) (contribs) 01:14, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
The Wikimedia Commons app for Android can now show nearby places that need photos.
<maplink> and <mapframe> can now use geodata from Open Street Map if Open Street Map has defined a region and given it an ID in Wikidata. You can use this to draw on the map and add information.
Changes this week
The RevisionSlider will be available as a beta feature on all wikis from 13 September. This will make it easier to navigate between diffs in the page history.
A new user right will allow most users to change the content model of pages.
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 13 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 14 September. It will be on all wikis from 15 September (calendar).
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 13 September at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
When you search on the Wikimedia wikis in the future you could see results from sister projects in your language. You can read more and discuss how this could work.
it wasn't a test. It was a query of some nonsensical text. I don't know what the author was trying to say there, but it's nonsense. Henry 115.166.17.197 (talk) 14:49, 17 September 2016 (UTC)
@115.166.17.197: The reason I reverted it was because you added three question marks, which made it look like a test edit. —MRD2014 (talk) (contribs) 14:55, 17 September 2016 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
The new version of MediaWiki will hopefully be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 20 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 21 September. It will be on all wikis from 22 September (calendar). This is the version that was meant to go out last week.
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 20 September at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
FWIW, I think the articles actually were vandalism because they were hoaxes as I was about to explain on the article talk pages. Vandal/author has been adding these names, with different professions, to various articles and has even changed the profession in the Brashika Singh article from boxer to model. The first few pages of a quick google search turned up nothing for Brashika Singh (I thought that in itself was odd for a common last name), adding to my thought that it was a hoax, therefore vandalism. In any event, you and Materialscientist were too fast for me! Materialscientist has already deleted the articles under A7. Donner60 (talk) 02:46, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
@Donner60: I had no idea who those people were, and I wanted to assume good faith. It didn't seem like vandalism to me. —MRD2014 (talk) (contribs) 02:47, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
No problem, of course. I thought I should explain because otherwise my rationale might have been considered off-base or otherwise dubious. It shows why I used vandalism instead of A7, again FWIW. Same proper result would be reached either way and now has been reached. By the way, I have seen your good work on many occasions so I know you are conscientious, careful and a great contributor. Donner60 (talk) 02:53, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
When you edit text and mention a new username they are notified if you add your signature. Before this only happened under certain conditions.
Users are notified if they are mentioned in a section where you add your own signature even if you edit more than one section. Before, users were not notified if you edited more than one section in one edit.
Problems
The MediaWiki version that was supposed to come to the wikis two weeks ago was put on hold again because of new problems. The MediaWiki version after it is now on all wikis.
Abandoned tools on Tool Labs could be taken over by other developers. There is a new discussion on Meta about this. It will be discussed until 12 October and then voted on.
Hi. I posted the info about Kevin and Bean because, if you listened to the radio program, you would know that "Kevin doesn't watch the news....'cause he's a kid". If fact they actually play a piece of audio where a small kid says that exact line when they refer to Kevin. I'm not being mean to Kevin. Most Kevin and Bean listeners would find my post to be hilarious. As would Kevin. 71.53.182.138 (talk) 18:17, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
Wikipedia is not the place to add random commentary into articles. —MRD2014 (talk) (contribs) 19:01, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
This arbitration case has been closed and the final decision is available at the link above. The following remedies have been enacted:
Michael Hardy is reminded that:
Administrators are expected to set an example with their behavior, including refraining from incivility and responding patiently to good-faith concerns about their conduct, even when those concerns are expressed suboptimally.
All administrators are expected to keep their knowledge of core policies reasonably up to date.
Further misconduct using the administrative tools will result in sanctions.
MjolnirPants is reminded to use tactics that are consistent with Wikipedia policies and guidelines, and the 4th Pillar when dealing with other users they are in dispute with.
The Arbitration Committee is reminded to carefully consider the appropriate scope of future case requests. The committee should limit "scope creep" and focus on specific items that are within the scope of the duties and responsibilities outlined in Arbitration Policy.
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Changes this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 4 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 5 October. It will be on all wikis from 6 October (calendar).
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 4 October at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
Tidy will be replaced. Instead the HTML 5 parsing algorithm will be used to clean up bad HTML in wikitext. This would cause problems on a number of wikis. They need to be fixed first.
<slippymap> will not work on Wikivoyage after 24 October. You should use <mapframe> instead. If you need help to fix this before 24 October you should ask for it as soon as possible.
You can use this user right to perform maintenance, answer edit requests, and make any other simple and generally uncontroversial edits to templates, modules, and edinotices. You can also use it to enact more complex or controversial edits, after those edits are first made to a test sandbox, and their technical reliability as well as their consensus among other informed editors has been established. If you are willing to process edit requests on templates and modules, keep in mind that you are taking responsibility to ensure the edits have consensus and are technically sound.
This user right gives you access to some of Wikipedia's most important templates and modules; it is critical that you edit them wisely and that you only make edits that are backed up by consensus. It is also very important that no one else be allowed to access your account, so you should consider taking a few moments to secure your password.
If you do not want this user right, you may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time.
Following up from the consensus reached here, the community will now establish the user right criteria. You may wish to participate in this discussion. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 13:03, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) So, Kudpung, I've had a read through the criteria; does this mean that I will automatically gain the right, given my work with CSD? Patient Zerotalk 13:36, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
Please see the details proposed regarding required qualifications and grandfathering. People not meeting the criteria can apply through WP:PERM - it takes 30 seconds - and will be accorded the right at admin discretion.Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 13:52, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
AfC notification: User:Torsten Lang/sandbox has a new comment
I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at User:Torsten Lang/sandbox. Thanks! Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 20:49, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
@Dodger67: I moved it to Draft:Dwyane Milburn and declined it there. I probably got this notice because you probably hadn't reloaded the page after I had moved it. The comment was posted to the redirect. —MRD2014 (talk • contribs) 20:51, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the barnstars! —MRD2014 (talk • contribs) 23:12, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
No subject
Hello
Thanks for contacting me . I was wrong by ping that . But if it makes any difference, all the info is factual and true . In fact they are from other sources,
Best regards —Preceding unsigned comment added by Siamakkalhor (talk • contribs) 02:41, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
You can show Special:RecentChanges on a page by using {{Special:RecentChanges}}. You can now use tag filters by using {{Special:RecentChanges/tagfilter=tagname}}.
The notification badge is coloured if you have notifications. When you check the notification the badge will now turn grey on all wikis instead of just the local one.
Colours used in the Wikimedia wikis' main interface changed slightly. This is to make them easier to see for readers and editors with reduced eyesight.
Changes this week
Hidden HTML comments will be more visible when you edit with the visual editor. <!-- You write hidden HTML comments like this. -->
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 11 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 12 October. It will be on all wikis from 13 October (calendar).
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 11 October at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Language converter syntax will soon no longer work inside external links. Wikitext like http://-{zh-cn:foo.com; zh-hk:bar.com; zh-tw:baz.com}- must be replaced. You will have to write -{zh-cn: http://foo.com; zh-hk: http://bar.com; zh-tw:http://baz.com }- instead. This only affects languages with Language Converter enabled. Examples of such languages are Chinese and Serbian.
Thanks for your help. I'm still a newbie and I'm not quite sure how to do things. I'm still trying to find my way around all the functions. I'll try uploading my photos and see how I get on.
@Dianthus33: You are autoconfirmed, so you can go to Special:Upload and upload your files there. —MRD2014 (talk • contribs) 19:48, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
I have de-PRODed this one as few references were added by the original article creator. If necessary then please take it to AfD for further discussion. Hitro talk 18:40, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Some users got a warning about Wikipedia's security certificate last week. This was because of a problem GlobalSign had. This has now been fixed. Only a small number of users got the warning.
Editors couldn't edit semi-protected pages in the Wikipedia app for Android. This has now been fixed in the beta version.
Changes this week
There will be no new MediaWiki version this week.
Future changes
The Editing Department are working on a new wikitext editor. It will have tools that are in the visual editor but not in the wikitext editor today. You can read more about this. This is an early plan and things can change. The old wikitext editor will still exist.
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Problems
The abuse filters had a problem and caught too many edits. This has now been fixed.
Changes this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from October 25. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from October 26. It will be on all wikis from October 27 (calendar).
The "Search" text in the search box will show the name of the project. For example, on Wikipedia it will say "Search Wikipedia".
Some wikis that want numerical sorting in categories can also ask to use UCA to sort categories. The biggest difference is that characters with diacritics will be sorted together. For example, for most languages Ä will be sorted with A instead of at the end of the alphabet. This is not true for languages that have Ä as a character in their alphabet. Wikis that already use UCA are listed on Meta. Languages that can use UCA are listed on MediaWiki.org. You can test it.