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|subject-first=, |subject-last=?

Oughtn't we to have |subject-firstn= and |subject-lastn=? These would normally be used in {{cite interview}} and which does support |interviewer-firstn= and |interviewer-lastn=. |subjectn= is an alias of |authorn=.

I don't recall discussing this anywhere and a quick search of the archives seems to indicate that the topic has never been raised. Any reason why we aren't (shouldn't be) supporting these?

—Trappist the monk (talk) 16:43, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

When you added support for interviewer-first/last, you did not discuss it, which is when it would have made sense, if at all. I did not recommend adding it myself then because it seemed like totally unnecessary overhead for the templates. Izno (talk) 01:49, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Is that an expression of opposition or an expression of indifference?

—Trappist the monk (talk) 14:22, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Closer to indifference. Izno (talk) 14:40, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

orig-year or orig-date

Which is the canonical form? The docs seem to be self-contradictory. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 22:03, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Where are you seeing a contradiction?

|orig-date= is the canonical form.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 22:31, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Some parts of the page use the orig-uear as the parameter in the lists. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 02:24, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Which page?

—Trappist the monk (talk) 02:49, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

The cite docs such as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Cite_journal/doc use |orig-year= in all the big lists of possible parameters. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 15:35, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Look for the docs in https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&limit=500&offset=0&ns10=1&search=insource%3A%22orig-year%22&searchToken=2w083e4dr0dw1zo9x62k1hcsi AManWithNoPlan (talk) 15:37, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Right, thanks for that. I've tweaked the doc pages for all of the cs1|2 templates. Someone else can do the wrapper templates.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 16:17, 7 December 2021 (UTC)