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While not 100% canon, there was a Japanese promotional campaign that told of what it takes to be a 00 Agent:
1. You don't fear death, and won't give into torture 2) You have Olympic level shooting skills 3) Even if you double-cross your own parents, you will never double-cross the organization 4) You have knowledge that would surprise even a scholar, and a sense of humor that would make even a bad girl grin 5) You have the sociability of a lamb, but remain a lone wolf 6) You have the highest level of experience with alcohol, gambling, cars and food 7) You can fall in love but you can never love."
This would be a nice tidbit to add to this page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.242.63.39 (talk) 14:58, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Discrepancy with the 00 details: Just a quickie, but the List of 00s mentions for Jonathan Hunter "GoldenEye" that Goldfinger dies by being sucked out of a plane, yet : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auric_Goldfinger#Death and Dr No dies by boiling : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr_Julius_No

Might want to edit that up somewhat? Sorry this is quick and dirty, kinda tired. Miles 2397 (talk) 22:03, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Choice of 007

I had always heard that "007" was assigned as Bond's number because that is the international dialling code for Russia from the UK. Is that pure urban myth? If it isn't (and it can be sourced), should it be included? --Legis (talk - contribs) 16:05, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

I once read somewhere, perhaps in Steven Rubin's "The James Bond Encyclopedia," that the number 007 was actually the number of the bus that Ian Fleming would take from his house to the bar or club where he used to hang out. -- Michael24 15:39, 21 February 2010

The badly named John Wolfgramm

Having done an electronic search on The Man with the Red Tattoo, I can confirm there is no character with the surname Wolframm (in fact the word "wolf" doesn't appear in the book at all). Why do you insist on adding a surname when one does not exist in the book? - SchroCat (talk) 06:21, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

It's probably coming from here: James Bond Wiki. Chaheel Riens (talk) 08:15, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Ah, something with no basis in fact then! ;) I've filed a 3RR report against them here for the ongoing reversions and I'll take out Wolframm later. Cheers CR. - SchroCat (talk) 08:23, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

I've removed it, as there can be no bones about it being unsourced. Not that it should happen, but my removal also prevents any accusations of 3RR being levelled in your direction. Chaheel Riens (talk) 11:21, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

That's great - cheers CR! - SchroCat (talk) 13:09, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Are we sure he's even referred to by the first name "John"? An electronic search fails to turn up the name John other than in the book's acknowledgements and on page 290. For the record 004 and 0010 appear in the same scene. - Fantr (talk) 21:22, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Good catch - I'd not checked on the first name before, but my search (electronic through a Kindle) on John, 010 and 0010 showed no connection between the 0010 character and any name at all. I'll take it out and leave an appropriate comment. - SchroCat (talk) 06:33, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

April 2013 update

The anonymous IP editor has tried again, adding the note "The first paragraph of chapter 2" as some justification. I have chapter two in front of me and the only identifying names there are as follows and in order: Major Boothroyd, Double-Os, Shooting Instructor Reinhardt, Agents 004 and 0010, 007. That's it; no more. There is no-one called John Wolframm or similar anywhere else in the chapter, or the book. -I also note that the James Bond Wiki reference has finally been removed as they have belatedly realised that no such person exists. - SchroCat (talk) 04:22, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

rmmmm 75.253.116.133 (talk) 22:57, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

Rmm, different person here, but, John Wolfgramm is Agent 0010, I mean like, when I look up who is Agent 0010, I'm like, oh holy crap, so you can just look that stuff up, but at least it doesn't show actual John Wolfgramm like the real life one, how do I know this, John Wolfgramm is my dad, how did he become a 00 agent, I don't know, I'm constantly pestering him about it, if that's anything. So um, in this book, is it fiction or non fiction, it's fiction for all I know, hmmm, I should pester him more about that, but back to my point, John Wolfgramm is Agent 0010, in this fiction book h e may not be, but in real life, he is. ^[1] oof that's long, well bye and don't come after me to try to kill me, and um, or else that won't end well for you, so, bye bye!

Number of 00's

(re: edit in lead) In film, specifically Thunderball, the number of 00's is at least 9, with the likelihood of more. At the 00:39:00 mark, Moneypenny advises Bond that he is to attend a meeting "with every 00 in Europe" in attendance. Bond then attends the meeting, sitting in the 7th of 9 chairs. (no ST:V ref intended), indicating there are 9 x 00's in attendance, 001 thru 009. However, as these are only the 00's from Europe, it leaves open the possibility of more 00's stationed around the rest of the world. - thewolfchild 17:03, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Unidentified 00's

Somewhere in here there should be a paragraph that makes mention of the unidentified 00's seen in the Thunderball meeting, and also the meeting in The World is Not Enough, especially as in the latter one of the 00s given an assignment is clearly female, and as such the first woman 00 to be shown on screen. 68.146.70.124 (talk) 20:06, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

I've added Raul Silva as a 00 Agent, as in the film Skyfall, it can be easily extrapolated that he was the same level agent as James Bond is . — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.86.186.41 (talk) 03:51, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Skyfall did not identify Silva as a 00. He just said that he was M's favorite agent. Emperor001 (talk) 15:19, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Unlikely coincidence

I see that in a later (non-Fleming) novel The Facts of Death, 004 is revealed as Frederick Wardner. In the film Thunderball, the role of 004 is played by Frederick Warner. This seems too much of a coincidence - either one piece of information is wrong, or (quite possibly) the novelist deliberately name-checked the actor. In either case, the information should be mentioned/corrected either here or in the article on the novel. Grutness...wha? 02:08, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

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Yes, I just had a few inquiries about some of the names you had listed for the Double-Os. First I was just wondering about agents Edward Donne 001, Jason Walters 003 and Peter Smith 009. I have been unable to find those names in any James Bond literature and I noticed that you didn't mention the sources you got their names from. Also, I noticed that a while back you had 001's last name spelled "Donner", as opposed to "Donne", so I went back and read Doubleshot again but did not see his name mentioned anywhere in there. I was just wondering if you could also include what books you found their names in. I believe that Miles Messervey was the original 001 and that Bill Tanner was perhaps the original 002. I discovered that the last man to be given the number 002 was named John Winter, however he was committed to an undisclosed mental institution somewhere. It is unknown whether he was ever discharged from the institution or not. However he was portrayed by actor Glynn Baker in The Living Daylights. I think that Suzi Kew was the original 003 because 003 is portrayed by a woman in Thunderball. My theory on 004 is that he is Charles Basildon, as mentioned in the Kiss Kiss Bang Bang comic series. My best guess as to what number this mysterious Double-O agent "York" holds would be 0011. He may have been Cederic. I believe that the Double-O seated to Bonds immediate left in Thunderball's Double-O briefing scene is Jack Giddings, the original 006, and the Double-O seated to 006's immediate left is Stuart Thomas, the original 005(Obviously prior to his eye defect). As far as the female 008 goes, as mentioned in "The James Bond 007 Role Playing Game", I believe that she is Stephanie Shelly, portrayed in the Kiss Kiss Bang Bang comic series. I'm thinking that the 009 mentioned in the World is Not Enough and the one mentioned and/or portrayed in Quantum of Solace are one and the same. I have also theorized that the Double-O agent "Jonathan Hunter" from the "Rogue Agent" James Bond video game is the original 0013. It has been suggested that agent Nick Fallon, portrayed in License to Kill, was a Double-O agent, because who else would you send to find and capture Bond when he's turned rogue. His number has been suggested to be either the original 001, 005, 008 or the original 0010. Finally, I have a theory about who those Double-O agents are who made an appearance in The World is Not Enough's Double-O briefing scene. Starting in the back row to the viewers far left I believe we have 001(Although he could be Cederic 0011). Standing next to him, I'm thinking, is the new 002, or perhaps that might even be John Winter, or how he looked by then(or perhaps he is 0013). Seated in the front row to the far left I believe we have the new 003 and seated between him and 007 I believe is Scarlett Papava 004. Lastly, sitting on the other side of Bond is who I suspect might be John Wolfgramm 0010. As for the nameless Double-Os we have left, I guess you'll just have to use your imagination to try to come up with some pretty cool sounding names for their numbers, but we know this for sure, that there is a new 003, 005, 006, 009, 0012 and 0013 whose names we don't know yet, IF they try to keep all the numbers filled at all times. Perhaps there is no one assigned to those numbers at the present momentAlex Knight 009 (talk) 07:15, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

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Names of 00s

Many of the names and 00 agents listed under the Eon film section have no sources that I am aware of. Most 00 agents in the films are not identified by name. The other 00 agents from Thunderball are nameless (technically it was not even stated on screen that they were 001 through 009, that's just an assumption). Likewise, other individuals like Silva were never identified on-screen as 00s, just as agents. The article should be edited accordingly. Emperor001 (talk) 12:47, 17 July 2019 (UTC) I find myself in agreement with you, Emperor001; all of these need to be cited as to the source for the name. They cannot be observational. Maybe it is better to tag the section as needing references or tagging individual uncited outliers? If, after waiting a week or two, and the items aren't cited, they can be removed. We aren't in a hurry, and if no one does anything, you and I present a consensus to remove and no one can say boo. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 14:08, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

There is a similar problem under the Fleming novels. It appears someone accidentally put the film 002 and 004 under that section. Also, Bond and 008 (Bill) are the only 00s identified by name in the Fleming novels. I think some of the confusion in these boxes comes from 00s having different names in different media, so that should be cleaned up. Note: novelization 00s can go in the novels by other authors section (thus Alec Trevelyan from GoldenEye goes under that section as well as the Eon films). I am also agreeable to leaving 0012 under the Eon films as he was mentioned in the novelization (the film just referred to him as an agent). How do I do the tags you suggested? Emperor001 (talk) 15:59, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

I think that would be a good start - separating the agents identified via the books by Fleming or other authors or different films - each with a source.

As to the different tags, this is an example of a tag for an entire of unreferenced or largely unreferenced statements. This is an example of how to tag a single statement that needs citation. Loading up the article with individual cn tags makes it hard for the reader to follow the article; if there are that many uncited things, a section reference tag is better. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 20:25, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Has it been long enough to make the changes I suggested above? Emperor001 (talk) 14:22, 26 July 2019 (UTC)