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Doesn't the photo violate the copyright of Rodger's estate? It's clearly not uploaded as being fair use Trade (talk) 22:05, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

Trade It was sent to me by the Santa Barabara Sheriff's Office via FOIA request. The picture I was sent was the printed 137-page version the Santa Barbara Police found in his apartment in his room. The Santa Barbara Sheriff's Office took the photo and it was sent to me by them. If you look at the original photo I uploaded, it literally shows the printed version of his manifesto being submitted into evidence by the Santa Barbara Sheriff's Office. How does it violate copyright when they are the ones who own the copyright of this evidence, and the reason explicitly says it was sent by them? And how does a mass murderer leave behind an estate? I have never of that before ever. Shoot for the Stars (talk) 23:14, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
Estates magically doesn't magically dissapear once people commit a crime. That would be silly Trade (talk) 23:34, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
Rather than removing the photo i have moved the discussion to Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2024 November 10. Feel free to comment there @Shoot for the Stars:--Trade (talk) 23:50, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
Trade I have nominated the file for deletion. Shoot for the Stars (talk) 00:10, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
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The photo at the top of the page shows, mainly, half empty bike racks. I don't think it's a good representation of the memorial service and there is a better photo further down in the article. Does anyone have an objection to these photos being swapped over? It's also used on this page Misogynist terrorism. Blackballnz (talk) 00:35, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

The photo on top is perfectly fine. If you look closer it literally shows dozens of people attending a vigil. Shoot for the Stars (talk) 07:41, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
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in the “attacks” section it states ER had scripted his lines in “Elliot Rodger’s Retribution” linked to multiple sources, there is no evidence to suggest these were scripted, and given the long pauses and sighs in between his speech it’s unlikely Big Mocc (talk) 02:41, 9 August 2025 (UTC)

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