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Word Cunt

The Word Cunt I first recollect heard in my childhood at secondary school, in the 60s as it was used as a swear word of such vulgarity I never wanted to use the word in public.

This changed in my early working days in a agricultural engineering workshop as a apprentice always getting all the hard dangers dirty jobs to do then a common thing in youth five year low wage of £3.50p then £03.10s 00p a week wage apprenticeships in mid Yorkshire. The annoyance of these jobs did occasionally call items that threw handling hurt me in some way this name. I at that time occasionally went with fully qualified agricultural engineers to farms all over west Yorkshire when a job needed two hands. Farmers are known to never retire and hand over their businesses to their siblings so you got talking to very old farm owners in their 80s.

They was a great breed of people and I learned a lot from the about old farming life in the region of about 1805 onward. One particular 80+ gentleman picked up on my fully skilled work colleague coming out with the C*** word and pulled him up and went on to say do you know where that name you used originated from, he said it has always meant a Cunt, the Old farmer said no its proper term is from a twelve inch peace of leather sheathing with two slits in the top so the farm worker could thread his trouser belt threw it and the lower portion had a another piece of leather sown to it like a dagger scabbard but shaped more rounded than flat so it was shaped the same shape as his 10 inch scythe sharpening stone and slightly barrelled shape round and tapered at both ends so was easy to hold in the hand and was easy to sharpen the scythe blade.

The job of mowing the corn to make into sheaves was a very hard tiring job and these farmers had biceps like these folk nowadays lifting weights. As a blunt scythe was hard to pull threw the crop its blade was often sharpened ever 15/20 minutes to make the job easier so the leather scythe sheath was one of the farmer’s handiest tools along with the scythe stone its self.

The old farmer did not have to tell me that the sheath was Called a Cu** and this is how the female part known today has being christened with the same name. This does not make the use of the name any more pleasant to use but it is a good explanation from where it originated and transformed its meaning. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.168.245.71 (talk • contribs)

Except it just aint true. Lots of items that looked vaguely vulval were called "cunts" by workers. See the Derived meanings section. The man who told you that was either teasing, or was simply misinformed himself. Paul B (talk) 17:08, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

WP:NPOV

This is the most heavily WP:BIASed article I've seen in years on Wikipedia. It leads off with overweening generalizations sourced to an editor named Česky at Wiktionary (!?) and goes downhill from there. (No, the Wiktionary entry doesn't actually support the point being made.)

Cunt is a very powerful curseword... in American English. It is almost benign in many other varieties of the language around the world. This article needs to reflect that. Not a WP:RS granted, but the standard tome for this sort of language (urbandictionary) captures this pretty well: the lead definition at "cunt" starts off with the standard American "...Considered by many to be the most offensive word in the English language" (doing the standard American thing of conveniently forgetting about the actual most offensive word in the English language) aaaand halfway down the page you get "It has almost replaced the word 'mate', often used in Australia to refer to people in a conversation when they can't be bothered trying to remember your name" followed by the defensive "usage example":

Sick Aussie Cunt: Sup cunt?

American feminist: I find that insulting

Sick Aussie Cunt: Piss off

This'll be hard to fix since you've got sources in addition to Wiktionary and (in America) it is a reflexively unpleasant term, but even though "Scholar Germaine Greer" quite probably did say "it is one of the few remaining words in the English language with a genuine power to shock", that's still only true in the US and putting that (unqualified) into the lead of this article and waiting halfway through the page to get to "...caveat...qualifier...the word has an informal use, even being used as a term of endearment" are examples of WP:UNDUE weight and WP:BIAS. The latter is its standard sense for wide swaths of the English-speaking world. Nothing a Londoner'd call her mum, granted, but hardly the nuclear bomb of personal discourse it's currently being presented as. Let's reflect that. — LlywelynII 11:10, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Baloney. It's still a swear word in all varieties of English. True, it's 'shock' value has dropped dramatically over the past few years as it has become more widespread in public usage - including in America. But that doesn't amoubnt to "bias" in the article is any real sense. The vast majority of the text is not about the past couple of decades. And "scholar Germaine Greer" said those words on a British TV show. Paul B (talk) 14:14, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I agree. It's still considered very offensive by most of the UK. I hear the "f" word every day at work, but I've never heard the "c" word. Deb (talk) 15:28, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Wasn't that offensive, before 21st century anyway. Noteswork (talk) 06:41, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

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I want to add the translation for this word "Cunt" in some languages Arunkumaar Punniamurthy (talk) 05:45, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Not done: we do not generally add translations into articles, there are hundreds of languages/dialects and the list of translations would in many cases be longer than the article. We do however link to articles in other language wikis: see the list to the left. If you create the article in your own language it can then be linked to. thanks IdreamofJeanie (talk) 09:23, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

List of well-known cunts

Could a new section be added to this page with a list of well-known cunts, e.g. Tony Abbott? 27.252.49.238 (talk) 23:37, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

See Termagant. Paul B (talk) 00:53, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Origins of 'Cunt' 6-8000 BC Goddess related

This article is glaringly inept, misleading and lacking. The history of the word is associated with Goddesses and goes back to 6-8,000 BC. http://cherishthecunt.com/2013/02/10/origins-of-the-word-cunt/ It is not difficult to find relevant historical information. Please update/edit the page. I may request that it be opened for editing, otherwise. http://cherishthecunt.com/2013/02/10/origins-of-the-word-cunt/. Lasinger711 (talk) 01:23, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

The only glaring ineptitude is in your comment. The website "cherishthecunt.com" is not a remotely reliable source. The article is not locked, only protected from ip editors. Paul B (talk) 09:08, 3 July 2014 (UTC)