Talk:Syllabus

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Contract aspect

I don't think we can still say "Within many courses concluding in an exam, syllabi are used to ensure consistency between schools and that all teachers know what must be taught and what is not required." First, this statement implies coordinated efforts between various colleges and universities regarding syllabi. Second, these documents now carry a legal connotation, serving as contracts between instructor (acting on behalf of the institution, I guess)and student. While some institutional groups (Colorado Community College System, for example) impose loose curricular guidelines on a few freshman courses to guarantee in-state transferability, we have not yet adopted standardized lesson plans. Colleges agree to general categories of objectives and competencies ("Understand and develop writing as a process in college"; "The Narrative Essay") as educational goals, but instructors decide how to help students reach those goals. To this nascent instructor, boilerplate contractual statements regarding attendance, performance, and grading appear to be mandatory as legal protection for institutions, rather than individual instructors. Finally, I know professional discourse is considering the ethical questions surrounding standardized syllabi. Any comments?Djredus 15:53, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Ok thanks seep mam 110.38.252.166 (talk) 03:58, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

Sounds legitimate to me. At my school, the professors always make the "covered material" section of the syllabus exorbitant, because they can subtract from it, but not add to it, by school policy (e.g. contract style), but this is not always the case. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.219.58.182 (talk) June27, 2007

The notion of a syllabus as a contract between student and instructor is an abuse of the contract idea. The syllabus is not negotiated and does not impose any duties on a student. A mere list of policies a professor will follow in the course is not a contract. Best practice is moving away from the notion of "syllabus as contract," and this wiki should reflect that trend.

Links on how to prepare a syllabus?

Can we get some links to pages to help show how to write a Syllabus? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.229.8.22 (talk) August 3, 2007

You can check Syllabus section of http://www.techbirbal.com which provides syllabus of Mumbai, Pune and Delhi University for Engineering Studies —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.183.136.230 (talk) 18:43, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

plural

dynamics

For a given term the syllabus is set, and a school follows a curriculum composed of several syllabi. An example of a dynamic view is given in Masters of Theory by Andrew Warwick. Preparations for Tripos examinations evolved over the 19th century following the examiners' preferences and the coaches anticipations. A curriculum/syllabus article could show the pressures from employers, administrators, parents, students and others on the dynamic of classroom work. The attitude of a hired instructor differs from that of a social or economic planner anticipating future demand for skills.Rgdboer (talk) 23:11, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Esyllabus

I have converted this article into a redirect because it says very little about the difference between a paper syllabus and one on the web. — RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 12:10, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

I have reverted it, based upon what I see as the obvious functional distinction, and the reported introduction at a point in time. The main difficult isn sourcing will be the obvious difficulties in conducting gsearches for the concept, as distinct for the millions of actual syllabi. We shall obvbiously need a discussion. I suggest that, knowing of my support of this article, it would have been better to hold the discussion first--but I know that our unfortunate formula for producing conflict, BRD, remains accepted. I have placed an underconstruction tag on it,. as I intend to work on it over the next week or so. DGG (talk) 16:35, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Unnecessary parts?

Most of the article seems unnecessary as it's just a list of possible things that a teacher could include in their syllabus. Does the article really need all of this? —D'Agosta (talk) 01:26, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Impossible to read!

I dunno what kinda lung capacity you guys got, but if I try to read the TWO sentences under Uses out loud I'd suffer from serious lack of air before I even get halfway. I'm amazed you haven't noticed yourself. 85.200.159.216 (talk) 06:41, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Minor change

I changed "syllubus" for "syllabus" Right on the second line. I hope it was just a typo instead of a twist on the latin word that i didn't know about. Thanks --Filosombi (talk) 00:22, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

I believe your gut feeling was right. Well played! SchuminWeb (Talk) 00:38, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Merge?

I am open to the idea of merging the "online course syllabus" page with this page. I can also see strong arguments for keeping it separate, due to the challenges created by the time/space separation between online instructors and learners, which online course syllabi must address. George.joeckel (talk) 18:38, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

• Merge. Seems like a fairly obvious move to me. SchuminWeb (Talk) 19:55, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

povs and cns

I googled this article to answer the simple question- what is a syllabus, and where can I find the definitions discussed. You can all read what I found. An article about American legal problems, something to do with their local contract law- all beautifully written and referenced. This is hardly useful in Canadian, European, Hispanic or Islamic cultures. I think that justifies a POV tag- then not a single paragraph is referenced (bar one that I can't check online). The most interesting line is in the third paragraph of the lead- but where did that come from, and was that journal regionally specific. Can we try to answer- what is a syllabus? How does it differ from a program of study, a curriculum and a scheme of work? --ClemRutter (talk) 23:45, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

@ClemRutter: I looked over the article and thought about what you said. Originally you put a tag on the article that it had a "neutrality" problem; I changed that to a "globalize" problem because I thought that would be more specific to your complaint.

I also came here for a definition and global perspective and can agree that the article cites US-based sources and fails to present a global perspective. It is not obvious to me how to find sources to improve this. Blue Rasberry (talk) 18:01, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

@Bluerasberry: Thanks for trying- finding references is hard. Google appears to change the query syllabus england to search for curriculum england. UK gov documents seem to have written out the word. Though we do have a reference enshrined in law to local agreed syllabus with regards to the RE syllabus. http://www.theredirectory.org.uk/overview/agreed-syllabus-re. https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/syllabus does allow a contrast between US UK usage and curriculum. http://www.learnersdictionary.com/definition/syllabus is at least concise!

Thirty years ago, as HOD (IT) at a UK Comp- I knew what I was doing. To fulfil the curriculum requirement, I chose to use the OCR syllabus, and entered my students in the OCR exam. Less confident teachers of IT, used to follow the London Board syllabus as it was more traditional and it still fulfilled the curriculum requirement that was set by the universities the students were wishing to enter. The English department were alway moaning about which poems and books had been excluded from their syllabus that year, just as they had perfected a way of presenting them. We found out and compared the syllabuses by looking at the exam board catalogues in the staff room.

I included that quote to illustrate the use of the word in UK ENG. But it still doesn't answer my questions, or your quest for sources for a way forward. From the OCR syllabus- I wasn't reqired to write a program of study- that document was opposed as its sole purpose was to provide a tick sheet for monitoring the teacher, and that was the POV/political act I was tagging. Individual lesson plans were written, and the lessons were assessed against them. Since then, politics has imposed a national curriculum that overrides teachers professional judgement and experience- and the students have lost out. (That is a POV until the research is written up in a generations time!)

I did find a useful note given to Stanford students: What is a syllabus and Here. It widens the definition. It seems to fit in with my quote but not adequate for a universal definition. The https://www.leeds.gov.uk/docs/Leeds%20RE%20syllabus.pdf is useful for understanding the interplay of all these overlapping words. There for the moment I must stop there are other things I need to do tonight. ClemRutter (talk) 22:09, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

Open the Dictionary

This citation of Cicero which allegedly misunderstands "qui pro quo" tau for lambda, is a not referenced and even a grossly blatant falsity. No any cultured person can believe that is possible to misunderstand a tau for a lambda by higly educated ancient people like the Latin/Greek scholars or Cicero himself. Greek was a living language at the time of Cicero, was he also deaf? Furthermore, Cicero was notoriously fluent in Greek. What is this pretentious and quite unreferenced BS. The Oxford Dictionary of Smurfs?

Syllabus comes from sum + lambanoo, sullambanoo, to collect. Only a very illiterate person with any notion in classic Latin and Greek can believe that "syllabus" could be a misinterpretation of sittybas(??). sittybas is a non-existent latin world also, there is no presence of this term in any Latin dictionary. Please correct this lousy piece of garbage.

And come back to school, please. Do not insult Latin and Greek scholars with this bs (08/september/2018) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.233.66.85 (talk • contribs) 16:38, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

"Required reading" listed at Redirects for discussion

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"Online course syllabus" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect Online course syllabus has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 August 27 § Online course syllabus until a consensus is reached. 1234qwer1234qwer4 13:05, 27 August 2024 (UTC)