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Previous discussions:
09-Jan-2008: The edit-buttons might not work at each day (some highly complex, peculiar article formats have been garbled). However, each day in April 2005 really is a WP article of the form:
Refer to each day, using those article names. I didn't create this design, just trying to help others work with it. -Wikid77 (talk) 16:18, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
09-Jan-2008: The format of this article had been a tall column wrapped as 8 words-per-line, but was changed at some point to wrap as 16 words-per-line (at 800x600 resolution screen size), reducing page length by 40% (making page seem half as long). -Wikid77 (talk) 16:18, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
When is Ridvan ? The article says it begins at sunset on March 20. On Current events, under 'Upcoming holidays', it's April 21. At least one of these two dates is wrong ??? -- 09:47, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Added a Picture to the April 11th. Added it as a Thumbnail. Should It stay, or go.. what do you all think ? --Irishpunktom\talk 23:27, Apr 11, 2005 (UTC)
Having just seen this discussion (and noting that 2 people v 1 person does not a consensus make), I would beg to differ. Some piccis are ok. Probably no more than 1 a day, perhaps 1 every other day, otherwise it really will get cluttered. But every article can be enhanced by a useful picci, and this one is no exception, jguk 19:36, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Please, write like that :
* United States, Washington : 2 people were running after a dog. * UN, Beijing : Bush declare than everyone is free to run if he want, and added " That's good for health ".
that's a better way for everybody ;)Yug 15:36, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
have you some news about the Chinese-Indian talks ? They want make a definitive peace to improve their relationship, cooperate in computer and hight-tech industry and were talking about a Chinese-Indian free-market, so something like 2,5 billion people. There is the french summary of this talk:
that's the main international news in Wikipedia.fr, and it seem haven't any information there, on wikipedia.en Yug 11:25, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I realized yesterday that there was no Australian Current Events page in the English-speaking wikipedia. Now there is. No Barn Star necessary. I just wanted everyone to know it's there and ready for editing. MPS 16:16, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
From the current version of the page:
The story, if true, is important. But is the Drudge Report really a reputable source for this page? I would argue not. -- Avaragado 09:34, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
The dating on the new rodent family, Laonastidae, is weird. The journal issue is considered December, 2004. The date that the journal was issued (and accessible to the public) is 18 April, 2005. So it is current. --Aranae 19:13, Apr 23, 2005 (UTC)
I propose a that from now on, the dates of current events be pegged to days of the week. for instance, "April 24" would be "April 24 (Sunday)." I got this idea from foreign current events sites. MPS 01:24, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Why is Expo 2005 in the current events list, but United Kingdom general election, 2005 (happening in 10 days, final campaigning underway) isn't??
I was recently blasted for removing sources from this page in an attempt to reduce the page size. Here's what happened on my talk page:
What the heck are you doing to April 2005 Trevor? Month pages always have links to stop people adding in phoney unsourced stories. FearÉIREANN\(caint) 02:31, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
Whoa, ok, I guess I touched a nerve here. I thought I was doing right by paring down an oversized, bloated page. I suppose sources are good for verifying facts on a page but this is certainly not the standard. If you look to previous months, the further back you go the less individual items are sourced. Does that mean that everything on April 2003 should be removed as unproven hearsay? I don't think so. Does that mean that we need to go back and find external web pages that show that everything on April, 2005, 2000s, and 21st century is proven fact. No. The way wikipedia works is: people post whatever they want and the edits either stays or is changed/removed if someone finds a problem. I think the reason these month pages look the way they do is because they were original the Current events page, and people treat that page as a "Breaking news" repository. Thats what Wikinews is for!
Take these sourced events for example:
April 29
April 28
April 27
April 26
April 25
Five sourced items for the same event! And if you look at the souce it's 26 lines long (on my screen). I can barely read it if I want to edit it. I didn't even look into May 2005 but I bet there are more there.
Or how about this:
April 28
A lot of leader visit a lot of countries, why is this noteworthy?. Does the source say?
Or:
April 26
Is this the first time this has happened? The last? Did the outside world even notice?
April 22
Rumors abound? This is a fact is it. Well, rumors abound that this page is way too big and it needs a reduction.
My proposal:
1. Remove sources from the page (after it is no longer the current events page, I'll leave you news junkies that much).
2. Remove multiple enteries from the page. The event is notable. The slow increase in casualty counts is not. Put the final count at the originating entry when its final, or update it accordingly.
Start with this and the page may get down to a reasonable size (135 KBs! Come on!).
Right. Now discuss.
Trevor macinnis 14:04, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
Can you show some edits where other editors have been paring down current event pages once they are moved to the page for a given month? If it's not the conventional practice, I would argue that you should achieve consensus beforehand. I think your best case is the Amagasaki rail crash stories, but if another editor really wants to see all the versions there, I don't see that it should be a showstopper. Parker Whittle 19:31, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
As of 2006-04-12, the article has a completely different format to all the other months. Unless someone can explain why this should be so, I'll revert it back to the standard format. However I don't want to start an edit/revert war, so I'll leave it a few days first. -- SGBailey 23:05, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
The entries about 25 April and 26 April are identical so there must have gone something wrong. Could someone check out the right version and fix it? --Proofreader 16:58, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
Any topics below are after 2007. -Wikid77 (talk) 16:18, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
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