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If you add one thanks! :) 2600:100E:B042:B254:6034:DA6C:49F6:1B74 (talk) 21:59, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
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Students on at least 33 universities participated on encampments with include
1-City University of New York - NYC 2- The New School - NYC 3- University of Rochester - Rochester, NY 4- University of California at Berkeley Berkeley, CA 5- University of Southern California Los Angeles 6- California State Polytechnic University 7- Yale University - New Haven, CT 8- Northwestern University - Evanston, IL 9- University of Maryland - College Park, MD 10- Harvard University - Boston 11- The Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) - Cambridge, MA 12- Columbia University 13- Tufts - Medford, MA The University of 14- Michigan - Ann Arbor, MI 15- University of Minnesota Minneapolis, MN 16- University of Nevada - Las Vegas Princeton 17-University - Princeton, NJ 18- University of New Mexico - Albuquerque, 19- Ohio State University - Columbus, OH 20- UNC Chapel Hill - Chapel Hill, NC 21- University of North Carolina - Charlotte, 22- Temple University - Philadelphia 23- University of Pittsburgh - Pittsburgh, PA 24- Brown University - Providence, RI 25- Vanderbilt - Nashville, TN 26- Florida international University - Miami 27- University of Puget Sound - Tacoma, WA 28- University of Kansas - Lawrence, KS 29- University of Arizona - Tucson 30- Texas A&M - College Station, TX 31- University of Texas - Austin - Austin, TX 32- University of Texas at Dallas - Dallas, Texas 33- Indiana University Purdue University - Indianapolis
. 108.41.217.76 (talk) 05:43, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
There is a typo in the reaction section in the third political paragraph. It should be than instead of then in the quote, as in the referenced article. Floweryskies (talk) 00:46, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
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In the Vermont section: I would like an addition made in reference to the University of Vermont. On April 28, UVM held a Liberation Seder using a haggadah put together by the Chittenden County chapter of Jewish Voices for Peace. Please cite this VT Digger article and this WCAX article hosted at MSN (Web Archive form pending). Mossgazer (talk) 05:14, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
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Today, April 30 at approx 7 am, pro-Palestine demonstrations began on the Staller Steps on Stony Brook main’s campus. Students tried to set up tents but were told by University Police that tents were considered a “structure,” and thus a permit was required (even though the tents were not staked into the ground). A student tried using a megaphone and was told by University Police they would need a “sound permit,” despite this student using their megaphone at other protests would no issue. Source and more info: https://sbstatesman.com/127280/news/breaking-news-sb4palestine-organizes-gaza-solidarity-encampment-on-staller-steps/. Rye bread92 (talk) 01:26, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
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Please add Fordham University under NYC section Shiklu (talk) 23:48, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
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Please add UMKC to the map of campuses with protests, probably as a blue pin as there are no encampments there currently per KCUR: https://www.kcur.org/news/2024-04-29/umkc-student-protest-gaza-israel-liberation-zone-campus-demonstration-solidarity Rmcmullin (talk) 21:22, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
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Former U.S. Presidential Candidate Jill Stein arrested by police at protest.
Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein arrested at pro-Palestine college protest (The Hill): https://thehill.com/homenews/4627558-green-party-presidential-candidate-jill-stein-arrested-at-pro-palestine-college-protest/
US presidential candidate speaks out after anti-war protest arrest (Al Jazeera): https://www.aljazeera.com/program/newsfeed/2024/4/29/us-presidential-candidate-speaks-out-after-anti-war-protest-arrest
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India On 29th April, the administration of Jawaharlal Nehru University (JNU), New Delhi, cancelled an event with the United States ambassador to India following protests by students who objected to the invitation due to the US involvement in the Gaza genocide.
Ambassador to India Eric Garcetti was invited for a talk on US-India ties by the School of International Studies. The “join protest demonstration” led by the JNU Students Union called to “resist military-industrial complex of US imperialist forces”.
[1] CalibanCrewMads (talk) 16:15, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
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Hi there, I am a long term reader of Wikipedia. this was my 1st attempted edit. I felt that it was important to give more information about the cancelling of Asna Tabassum, 2024 Valedictorian at USC, reflecting who she is. (I find her a remarkable inspiration!) I saw this interview of her from Wednesday 4 24 24 on Democracy Now, and was very moved by what she shared. I wanted to learn more and went on Wiki, but found little info about her. So I attempted to add a few quotes, that would help readers understand more of the issue around this Valedictorian speech cancellation, a 1st in USC history. Here is the edit I offered: Please feel free to include it or not, and correct formatting or not. Warm Regards, Dr. Suzanne Lerner PS I tried to copy the citation format, but have no previous experience coding, so I did my best. Feel free to change it.
USC claimed they were cancelling their invitation for Asna to give the USC 2024 Valedictorians speech, due to safety reasons. Asna was given no details as to what the security threats or what the security concerns were. When she asked for details regarding the security concerns — for example, were they security concerns about her or her classmates? — She was offered no information and was told it was not appropriate for her to know.
Asna was chosen out of a group of 100 students with a GPA > than 3.9, Asna has a Major in Bio-Medical Engineering, and a Minor is Resistance to Genocide. As she stated in an interview recorded Wednesday, 4 24 24 on Democracy Now: "I see my major and my minor working together, for the very same goal, is that, you know, my minor in resistance to genocide allows me to study the human condition at possibly one of its worst conditions, and then biomedical engineering is my way of learning technically how we can improve the human condition through increasing health accessibility." While some groups used an article she had posted a link to, to claim that she was promoting a one State solution, Asna points out that in the very next paragraph, "there are paragraphs and information relating to the two-state solution, as well...as the one-state. The sentence right after the one you just quoted (about a possible one state solution) talks about coexistence between Arabs and Jews." Asna added that "In no way am I advocating for hate. I am only advocating for human equality and for the sanctity of human life when I say that Palestinians, as well as Jews, as well as Muslims and Armenians and anyone else who is invested in this conflict, has the equal right to life and the equal privilege of the fullest extent to life."
[1] Suzanne2.0 (talk) 01:28, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
Protests have turned violent in some cases. Should the term "Unrest" be used? SpringField23402 (talk) 15:43, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
I'm seeing reports of solidarity encampments at universities in France, Italy and Australia. Is there a separate page for that? Kire1975 (talk) 21:07, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
(later edit: It seems it was changed and now turned back to US, you can ignore this reply)
I'd like them to be used on the page somewhere, if it is possible.
How could this be done? Irisoptical (talk) 23:11, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
Obviously when this settles down of course, and while information is flowing in we can continue to fill in each subsection as necessary.
But some of these protests might have only one source referencing them and could probably be concatenated into a single section of "Other colleges", when this settles down (whenever that happens).
Some of these schools could probably be their own wikipages at this point too. User:Sawerchessread (talk) 02:06, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
There's only a Fediverse video for yesterday's solidarity protest at the University of Copenhagen. Any proper sources? Boud (talk) 18:49, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
Not sure how merge proposal or page scope will be dealt with; the article has no Outside US section so far but see above. So here are some sources if anyone feels like creating a section and adding them:
-Paris
-Rome
Best, -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:51, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
Done .....But now the page has been moved with a title restricted to 'US',,,,can we address this? @CommunityNotesContributor and Makeandtoss:-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:38, 26 April 2024 (UTC) (As for overcite, feel free to remove the sources you think redundant)
The student protests are ongoing in May 2024. The title needs to reflect that (or eliminate the month). Collegemeltdown2 (talk) 20:32, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
Hello, I am requesting that my own photo taken at the University of Oregon’s encampment protest be used in the Oregon section of this article. I think that given the size of the encampment (as it has grown in recent days), it would be a useful addition to this article.
Here is a link to the image page for use: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Student_encampment_at_the_University_of_Oregon.jpg Spacemace1 (talk) 21:58, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
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In the Missouri section of the article:
Police from Richmond County, St. Louis Metro and the University
should be changed to:
Police from Richmond Heights, the St. Louis Metropolitan Police Department and Washington University
The main reason I make this request is because Richmond County does not exist and was very clearly a typo. I also noticed that the other two noun phrases were rather awkward as well (there probably isn't a good reason to keep the shortened version, especially since it doesn't link to St. Louis the city, and "the University" has weird capitalization and doesn't flow very well), although those latter two changes are not strictly necessary. Bruberu (talk) 01:15, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
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Remove Turkey from Locations where the student protests are taking place TreachCriss (talk) 07:39, 2 May 2024 (UTC) The source doesn't mention Turkey. Either remove it or add a better source that mentions Turkey.
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Remove Turkey from Locations where the student protests are taking place TreachCriss (talk) 07:39, 2 May 2024 (UTC) The source doesn't mention Turkey. Either remove it or add a better source that mentions Turkey.
Alongside Columbia University, Barnard is taking action to suspend those involved with the encampments. Additionally, there have been encampments occurring at Rutgers University in New Jersey.
These are possibly worth noting in the article 69.74.33.158 (talk) 17:19, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
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Hi, could someone with edit access please add Sonoma State University in Rohnert Park, CA? SSU SJP set it up yesterday, April 26, and we're trying to get the word out! So far the campus police have left it alone. https://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2024/04/26/18865416.php AlynWolves (talk) 17:19, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
Students at Dickinson College began a Solidarity protest on the night of 4/25
https://www.pennlive.com/nation-world/2024/04/dickinson-students-stage-sit-in-to-show-solidarity-with-arrested-palestine-protesters.html Fernmyne (talk) 05:48, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
As an FYI, due to a notable fork issue (as well as other issues), I was planning to WP:BLANKANDREDIRECT the Pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses in the United States to this article. Please respond on the talk page if you disagree and it can go to AfD if necessary. This is merely a courtesy notification that can be ignored. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 19:03, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/pro-palestinian-protest-camps-show-up-on-local-campuses-but-calmly/ar-AA1nL2nC Fernmyne (talk) 18:29, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
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The website “Students 4 Gaza - A Global Map of Encampments and Demands” ( https://students4gaza.directory/ ) has more participating colleges and universities listed on the website including cited sources used to make the determination. Many such participating institutions in the United States and around the world have yet to be added to the list and map here on Wikipedia. So I request that you please add the missing institution, including the ones outside the United States to the list on Wikipedia.
As of 5:02 AM Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) on Monday, April 29, 2024, the participating institutions are as follows (for new updates check original source):
Best regards,
~~ InfoWiki01 (talk) 05:04, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
Hello, I was reading over the page and noticed that the paragraph starting with "Several protests have been criticized for antisemitism" feels a bit empty to me.
Would it be alright to add in opinions from the group Jewish Voice For Peace especially their articles on how the movement is being accused of anti-semitism even though some of the actions against the movement according to them are making jewish voices feel less safe?
There has always been an anti-zionist jewish movement, as this own website acknowledges by having articles on it, so it would not feel out of place in my opinion to places these articles here to ensure neutrality of information. Yeastmobile (talk) 11:45, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
Include that this is a protest against an active genocide and ethnic cleansing perpetrated by Israel against the people of Palestine sponsored by and funded by the United States 2600:8802:4511:A500:F0E1:76B9:82B9:7CD8 (talk) 04:43, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved to 2024 pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses Given that the protests have already lasted past April, and numerically, there are only two opposes (one of which seems to support the new title, anyways), it seems appropriate to WP:SNOW close this. (non-admin closure) ARandomName123 (talk)Ping me! 16:13, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
April 2024 Israel–Hamas war protests on university campuses in the United States → 2024 pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses – Opening this move request to gauge consensus on a better title. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 14:14, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
Oppose United States shouldn't be mentioned in the title, given these protests aren't just local, but are happening in several countries. Nfitz (talk) 22:05, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
"In most of the world, a college may be a high school or secondary school", hence why university campuses is used at present. The U.S. definition is completely different from the rest of the world, as it's not even widely accepted that a university is a college. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 14:54, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
"Any autoconfirmed user can use the Move function to perform most moves". Personally I didn't see this as a WP:NOTRM or WP:PCM issue, and it wasn't an WP:RM#T. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 23:18, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
Unaware of this ongoing discussion, I created a new page on global protests on university campuses. I am not sure why the unique developments in April in US universities should be moved to a global title. I oppose such a move, rather think we can also have a stand alone page on the global one. --Mhhossein talk 20:04, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
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I would like to request that the following material and sources, or some variation of it, be incorporated into the "In Texas" subsection, specifically the paragraph discussing the protests at UT Austin. This can replace some outdated information, such as that discussing the arrests on campus:
On April 24th 2024 non-violent protests were planned on the University of Texas at Austin campus by the Palestine Solidarity Committee, a registered student organization at the university. The protests drew a large crowd, which was later dispersed by Austin Police Department officers and Texas Department of Public Safety troopers, who were there as the request of the university and Governor Greg Abbott, who claimed the protests were anti-Semitic and unauthorized.[1] 57 individuals were arrested for criminal trespassing, all of whom were later released without charge by mid-day April 26th.[2] The law enforcement presence and subsequent arrests at the protests have since drawn criticism from both students and professors at the university.[3][4]
Durchbruchmüller (talk) 01:04, 28 April 2024 (UTC) Durchbruchmüller (talk) 01:04, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
... specify[ing] what text should be removed and a verbatim copy of the text that should replace it, i.e. show the current version of paragraph 3 and what you propose replacing it by. If you want to remove other people's words/references, then it will either need to be obvious why your proposed text is better, or else you will need to explain why you have proposed the changes. Boud (talk) 18:31, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
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: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)Hey all,
With regards to this map, I think we should somehow indicate for the readers what the difference is between the red icons, blue icons, and the green icons (what do the differing colour labels even mean)? At present, the labels are not explained even when you click on or enlarge the map.
In addition, I noticed that we mention encampments at the University of British Columbia, Washington State University, Whitman College, and Evergreen State College in the main body of the article, but for some reason there are not any flags within Washington State nor British Columbia indicated on the "April 2024 Israel–Hamas war protests on university campuses map".
I'm not familiar with how the data is inputted and populated into these maps. Could someone either share how to edit the map with me, or alternatively, add it themselves? Cheers, FlipandFlopped ツ 21:01, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
The MOS:LEADSENTENCE was recently updated to: "On April 17, 2024, a series of anti-Zionist and pro-Palestinian Israel–Hamas war protests began on university campuses in the United States."
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For context, the quote in the reference: "Pro-Palestinian student activists say their movement is anti-Zionist but not antisemitic"
This comes from Columbia protesters, that aren't representative of all the protests for starters. refarchive
So should we be describing all these protests as anti-Zionist in the opening sentence based on protesters from Columbia's opinion?
We could do with more sources to back up this description in a non-ref bomb type way at minimum. It doesn't seem accurate to label all the protests as anti-Zionist, which is why you don't predominantly see reliable sources referencing the protests as such.
"organized by anti-Zionist groups" would be more accurate in my opinion, with suitable RS to cover those claims, as well as better suited to the MOS:OPEN for context sake and to avoid an overloaded first sentence. Thoughts?
PS - @BootsED was there any reason you reverted the cite bundle I created in the diff reference above? The reference for anti-Zionist isn't even an accusation of antisemitism either, it's a discussion and defence of it, so at present it's WP:REFBOMB territory, hence why I excluded it when creating the ref bundle. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 15:50, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
"I find it very hard to imagine that they are antisemitic". That's definitely not criticising the protests as antisemitic at all and should be removed as is false attribution. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 17:41, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
"the protesters say they are anti-Zionist but not antisemitic."I otherwise think are only so many articles from the same publisher to add to a cite bundle. Adding more references from the same source doesn't add any extra weight to the claim imo. Usually cite bundles are made up of references from different sources for specifically this reason it seems. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 18:59, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
"The protests emerged in response to mass arrests at the Columbia University pro-Palestinian campus occupation, where protesters sought for the university to divest from Israel, as part of a movement organized by anti-Zionist groups", given your reply that
"your proposal of "organized by anti-Zionist groups" also is accurate". Both Reuters and NYT appear to attribute this to Columbia, as opposed to the broader protests, so for now I'd say it's due related to this only. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 20:35, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
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Comrade Toaster (talk) 03:05, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
Protests were held and encampments were established at the University of Wisconsin–Madison and University of Wisconsin–Milwaukee on April 29.
Edit to: On April 29, a protest was held, and an encampment was established at the University of Wisconsin-Madison by the University of Wisconsin-Madison Chapter of Students for Justice in Palestine and the Young Democratic Socialists of America. University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee established their encampment on the same day.
Sources: https://www.instagram.com/p/C6NXFnTgxRb/ (Joint instagram post by the protest's organizers which woudld turn into the encampment)
https://www.wortfm.org/what-happened-last-night-at-the-uw-student-encampment/
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Edit Request: Expand on Law Enforcement and Possible Army National Guard response to College Protests and Counter-Response by Protesters.
1) What tactics did police/LEOs use in response to protestors? How they treated peaceful obedient protestors, violent protesters, non-violent civil disobedient protesters, the press, and neutral bystanders.
2) What tactics did protesters (and possibly counter-protesters) use against police or other governmental authorities or university authorities? For example, the California State Polytechnic University, Humboldt (Cal Poly Humboldt) barricade where police were pushed back and had to withdraw until a later time. DC Police declining George Washington University President's request to remove or forcibly remove peaceful protesters (see Washington, D.C. section for more details).
3) Politicians talking about or threatening to call in the U.S. Army National Guard to quell protests. Historical taboo of deploying the National Guard at college protests in the aftermath of the Kent State shootings at Kent State University and Jackson State killings at Jackson State University during the Vietnam War.
Police / Law Enforcement
Gaza protesters occupying California university building arrested in police crackdown (The Guardian): https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/apr/30/protesters-arrested-cal-poly-humboldt
D.C. police rejected GWU's plea to sweep out university protesters (The Washington Post): https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/04/26/dc-police-george-washington-university-protests/
Lawmakers question D.C. police for not moving on GW protesters (The Washington Post): https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/04/30/congress-dc-police-pro-palestinian-encampment/
Crackdown or compromise? A tale of two US campus protests (BBC News): https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68909953
Do Democrats want the Columbia campus protests and encampment to get shut down by the Texas National Guard? / The Democrats Are Wasting the Campus Protests (Slate): https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/04/columbia-campus-israel-protests-texas-police-crackdowns-democrats.html
'Decisions Under Fire': Campuses Try a Mix of Tactics as Protests Grow (The New York Times): https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/27/us/college-protests-police-response.html
Campus protests: Hundreds arrested at universities across US as Gaza demonstrations continue (BBC News): https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68915021
US colleges where students have been arrested over anti-Israel protests (New York Post): https://nypost.com/2024/04/30/us-news/us-colleges-where-students-have-been-arrested-over-anti-israel-protests/
Free Speech Advocates Urge Restraint From Colleges Amid Protests (Forbes): https://www.forbes.com/sites/meglittlereilly/2024/04/30/free-speech-advocates-urge-restraint-from-colleges-amid-protests/?sh=4cc72aeb61e8
U.S. Military / National Guard
Senators Wary of Sending National Guard to Quell Campus Protests (Bloomberg): https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-04-28/senators-wary-of-sending-national-guard-to-quell-campus-protests
Why Republicans think the National Guard is a solution to pro-Palestinian protests (MSNBC): https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/columbia-protests-mike-johnson-national-guard-rcna149329
Sen. Kaine says sending National Guard to college campus protests would be ‘very, very bad idea’ (The Hill): https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4627388-tim-kaine-national-guard-college-campus-palestine-protests-bad-idea/
Johnson demands Biden send in National Guard during raucous Columbia visit (Politico): https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/24/mike-johnson-columbia-national-guard-00154199
At Columbia, Johnson Suggests Military Could be Needed to Quell Gaza Protests (The New York Times): https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/24/us/politics/johnson-columbia-university-president-protests.html
InfoWiki01 (talk) 03:42, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
I wanted to add some additional sources to the protest currently occurring in Utah. Original reporting from local students:
The main group organizing the rally and encampment I think:
It seems as though 5 protestors got arrested on FSU's campus encampment Monday morning. Judging by further news articles that have come out since the original source was used, it seems the sprinkler incident caused the protest to simply relocate and continue, not ending it.
• Article showing protest going throughout Thursday https://www.wctv.tv/2024/04/25/tallahassee-students-democratic-society-protest-israel-hamas-war-fsus-campus/
• Arrest article https://www.wctv.tv/2024/04/30/protester-reportedly-handcuffed-florida-state-amid-nationwide-demonstrations-against-israel-hamas-war/
• More about sprinklers https://floridaphoenix.com/2024/04/30/desantis-on-campuses-after-arrests-they-turn-the-sprinklers-on-so-thats-just-how-its-gonna-be/ KapnKetchup (talk) 05:38, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
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Pro-Israel Counter-protesters + Article Title Change
We need to flush out some more information about Pro-Israel counter-protesters and also change the name of the article to "2024 Israel-Palestine protests on university campuses."
Accusations of Espionage on college campuses by U.S.-based Pro-Israel group on behalf of Israeli government, intelligence services and foreign affairs.
Deploying spies on campus in the US: The 'Israel on Campus Coalition': https://english.almayadeen.net/articles/analysis/deploying-spies-on-campus-in-the-us--the--israel-on-campus-c
Israel’s War on American Student Activists: https://www.thenation.com/article/world/israel-spying-american-student-activists/
Accusations of Advocating/Lobbying for the warrantless surveillance of Pro-Palestine college students
Pro-Israel Groups Pushed for Warrantless Spying on Protesters: https://prospect.org/blogs-and-newsletters/tap/2024-04-26-pro-israel-groups-warrantless-spying-protesters/
InfoWiki01 (talk) 01:54, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
There appears to be little historical context in this article, to include (1) a brief history of Israel and its forced migration of Palestinians and (2) the history of US higher education, its long-standing role in supporting establishment causes (genocide, slavery, wars, global climate change), and the history of student movements to counter oppression (the Vietnam War, South African apartheid and divestment). Collegemeltdown2 (talk) 20:02, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
Students at Keene State College in Keene New Hampshire organized a protest and it must be added to the Wikimap of protesting colleges with a blue marker. Quertie420 (talk) 14:25, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
Hi, there's not currently a WP:RS for it, but La Trobe University will be holding an encampment from 7 May to 9 May (I've been told there's a potential to extend it, but its not a large uni such as University of Melbourne or University of Sydney so there might not be as many people to sustain it for weeks as they are doing. Here is an instagram post announcing it, there should be WP:RS in the future.[1] MarkiPoli (talk) 17:44, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
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First sentence of the second paragraph of the lead section contains the phrase "began occupying campuses" when it more accurately should read "began occupying spaces on campuses". Current phrasing implies students physically occupied entire campuses in protest. Gorvus the thumb (talk) 03:18, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
At Suny New Paltz, a peaceful protest was forcibly broken up by riot police after they refused to disperse:
At least one person injured: https://cbs6albany.com/news/local/cbs-6-speaks-with-new-paltz-student-hurt-in-college-protests-gaza-pro-palestine-israel-hamas-war-encampment-injury-camp-protesting-suny-campus- Wikiwikiwawa (talk) 13:02, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
Please let me know which article of Wikipedia this https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/18/technology/google-firing-israeli-cloud-contract.html news should be added to.-4Zion2Do (talk) 20:51, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
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Change the following sentence:
"On April 25, students from Georgetown University and George Washington University established a joint encampment ... ."
"Protesters were joined by Howard University, George Mason University, University of Maryland, Baltimore County, and Gallaudet University students."
To: "On April 25, students from Georgetown University and George Washington University established a joint encampment in Foggy Bottom ... ."
"Protesters at Foggy Bottom were later on joined by Howard University, George Mason University, American University, University of Maryland, College Park, Gallaudet University, and University of Maryland, Baltimore County students."
Here are additional sources for this change:
-- Also, let's add more information about why the Metropolitan Police Department of the District of Columbia (MPD) rejected George Washington University President's request to remove the protesters. Some of the sources that have already been cited, plus others we can cite, say that MPD/D.C. officials rejected the request because the protesters [(at least at the time)] were protesting peacefully and police did not want to antagonize them nor recreate the same optics surrounding the Teargassing and Clearing of Peaceful Protesters at Lafayette Square during the Donald Trump photo op at St. John's Church. --
[Note to Talk Page Readers: American University (AU) and the University of Maryland, College Park (UMD) are mentioned twice in the whole article because they had protests on their campus but later on joined the joint DMV SJP encampment at GW's campus in Foggy Bottom. In UMD's case, its on-campus protest is mentioned in the Maryland section while its joint protest at the Foggy Bottom, Washington, D.C. encampment should be mentioned in the Washington, D.C. section. Also keep in mind that University of Maryland, College Park (UMD) and University of Maryland, Baltimore County (UMBC) are two separate universities with similar names that joined the Foggy Bottom protest (this may have confused an editor which may be the reason why it was omitted).]
InfoWiki01 (talk) 00:43, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
It's good to see so much effort included in this article. I hope that in documenting and editing this phenomenon that we do not lose sight of history, much of which has been lost through questionable (uncritical) scholarship and selective editing. I am particularly amazed at how poorly student protest and other forms of student resistance have been documented in Wikipedia, but perhaps I shouldn't have. Student protests in the 1920s and 1930s, for example, have barely been examined, despite their historic role in US civil rights. What happened in between those years and the 1960s is made invisible. Even student and faculty resistance from the 1960s to the present is poorly documented. How this article is edited, and possibly included in higher-level articles on Higher education in the United States and History of higher education in the United States will be interesting, especially if the events are part of a broader popular movement. Collegemeltdown2 (talk) 16:36, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
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Additional schools have been added to the protest list. In Illinois, we have protests at the University of Chicago, Northwestern University, and the School of the Art Institute of Chicago, the final of which experienced multiple arrests today. I am requesting to add these schools to the list Hsmorgane (talk) 07:47, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
I just started this article. One of the weird aspects of this protest was that Donald Trump had been saying that pro-Palestinian demonstrators were the same as the hostile actors in the Unite the Right rally. Bluerasberry (talk) 18:20, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
Since it was a notable event in the campus protests across the United States. There is also so much more information not included in the section of the UCLA article. I feel like The New York Times did a great job depicting the timeline of events (https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/05/03/us/ucla-protests-encampment-violence.html), which can be used as a reference. Seeing as the governor of California and the UC president are expressing desire for an investigation of campus police and the LAPD, we could see much more information in the coming months. I also posted this on the UCLA campus occupation article's talk page. Thoughts or suggestions? Kokaynegeesus (talk) 20:25, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
Length alone does not justify division or trimming.. What's your reason your wanting to split and not improve the current article about UCLA campus occupation? CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 20:47, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
I already posted this on the List of protests article here, but I figure I'd repost here.
I see that aside from Columbia, articles have been written for the encampments at Portland State, Sciences Po, UCLA, and University of Oregon. Are there other individual encampments that have gotten enough coverage to have their own seperate articles? Personally, I think USC, Cal Poly Humboldt, UT Austin, and maybe a couple others have enough notability for articles, but I'd like to hear what others think. TheAmazingRaspberry (talk) 20:55, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
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Add "At Fordham University, fifteen students including law students were arrested in front of the Leon Lowenstein Center on W 60th St the morning of May 1st." Laughtermaster (talk) 16:29, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
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Change the short description from "Series of war protests on US campuses" to "Series of war protests on campuses in North America, Europe, and Australia" because this is no longer just in the United States. Mariwlqs (talk) 03:12, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
Should material be added about today's police raid at UCSD on their encampment? Their encampment had been entirely peaceful with no incidents between protesters and outside individuals, and yet, after needed expansion of the encampment due to overcrowding due to the university canceling the annual music festival due to the protest and people joining the protest in solidarity who otherwise would have been at said music festival, the university cited this expansion, as well as the encampment refusing entry to police and fire marshalls, as an act of aggression and sent in armed riot police and border patrol, arrested 40 students and 24 non-students, and dismantled the encampment, and the chancellor basically shut the entire west campus down, forced all classes online-only, and instituted a state of police martial law for the following 25 hours. 68.8.84.138 (talk) 02:17, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
At the end of the other countries section it says "This was met with ridicule from the Yemeni public." but that's not in the source at all. Anyone with permissions wanna change that? Gabecube45 (talk) 17:44, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
As this article is now evolving to a more encyclopedic format, one of the key questions a reader will ask is "To what degree did the protests lead to divestment from Israel?" At least some US universities have to some degree accepted this demand by the protestors. Some of this info is probably in the Reactions section, but would be worth a section either in the Overview section or as a subsection of Responses / United States. Boud (talk) 11:42, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
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Please change the list of other countries in the infobox from:
to
Speederzzz (Talk) (Stalk me) 07:18, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
Should there be a section on student expulsions and due process? https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2024/05/06/college-protests-suspensions-expulsion-arrests/ Collegemeltdown2 (talk) 22:22, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
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I think it'd be useful for organizing information Snokalok (talk) 23:39, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
In this chronology, the Vanderbilt University 20 hour-occupation, which involved multiple arrests, suspensions, and expulsions seems to be ignored. It's mentioned in a NY Times article that discusses administrative tactics. According to the NYT "Vanderbilt University issued what are believed to be the first student expulsions over protests related to the Israel-Hamas conflict." While the NY Times did not tell the full story from a student perspective, it does seem to be important. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/18/us/politics/colleges-protests-israel-war.html Collegemeltdown2 (talk) 01:12, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
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Please add this:- It was claimed that Rockefeller Brothers Fund, WESPAC, George Soros and Howard Horowitz were funding the protests through the Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP), American Muslims for Palestine (AMP), Jewish Voice for Peace (JVP) and others but these were denied by the foundations of Soros.[1][2][3][4][5][6][7] DieAchtung (talk) 19:14, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
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I suggest that the title be renamed "2024 pro-Palestinian protests on university and college campuses." This new title would be more inclusive, and it may also be easier to find using search engines. Collegemeltdown2 (talk) 13:43, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
Are there any images in Wikimedia that show campus arrests that could be included? I thought this Time article was outstanding in terms of photojournalism. https://time.com/6975991/campus-protests-student-photojournalists-cover-story/ --Collegemeltdown2 (talk) 16:18, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
Should there be mention of counter-protests, like this one at the University of Mississippi? https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/may/06/university-of-mississippi-palestine-counter-protest-investigation Collegemeltdown2 (talk) 15:10, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
Why was the student protest link removed from see also section? The US already has such a myopic understanding of the situation in terms of time and space. The media can only go back to Columbia University 1968, if that, to make comparisons. Collegemeltdown2 (talk) 16:21, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
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In the Violence against protesters section, add kettling 4.39.220.106 (talk) 19:16, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
As the title suggest, the framing of the pro-palestine protestors as anti-zionist is misleading and there are no secondary sources supporting that's was the reason for the protestors 212.29.194.49 (talk) 17:39, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
Worth including in this article? https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/10/nyregion/new-school-faculty-protest-encampment.html Collegemeltdown2 (talk) 18:24, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
i posted this a few days ago and i see the images have been updated but the legend has not been corrected. the fifth image in the article’s info box, clockwise from top, is mcgill university, not monash university. would edit it myself but i only have ~ 350 edits :( ApplePiePoliceState (talk) 04:29, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
The undue weight tag says "legislation not directly associated with the protests, as the protests aren't referenced as a cause for this legislation.". It was pretty clear to me before, but I've added an NPR story that says "House passes bill aimed to combat antisemitism amid college unrest". @User:CommunityNotesContributor's concern is addressed. Can we get a consensus to remove the tag now please? Kire1975 (talk) 04:01, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
Hello.
These "See also" section links keep being removed despite seeming self-evidently relevant to the context of this page. Can they be reinserted please? David A (talk) 14:33, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
"As a general rule, the "See also" section should not repeat links that appear in the article's body". Both Anti-apartheid movement in the United States and Weaponization of antisemitism are linked in the body already, I do not see any benefit to including them again in See also links for this reason. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 18:41, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
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Please leave a comment if you would like further details regarding this image. Gabetucker2 (talk) 21:04, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
Have we documented the different strategies that college presidents and mayors have used, and the number that have used specific strategies, such as using local police (police outside the campus, like the NYPD)? Do we know if any university presidents have called for the National Guard? I thought this statement in the Harvard Crimson was interesting. "Harvard’s actions contrast with at least 50 other colleges and universities across the country that have asked local authorities to arrest or detain student protesters." Talk:2024 pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses Collegemeltdown2 (talk) 18:07, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
Please let me know if you have any questions regarding this video. I will leave it to the judgement of accredited Wiki editors whether this video is suitable for the "Controversy/Violence against protesters" section of the article. Gabetucker2 (talk) 03:31, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
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You people have mentioned, "student intifada" in the lead. Please explain it to the readers.-49.205.131.36 (talk) 07:13, 19 May 2024 (UTC) 49.205.131.36 (talk) 07:13, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
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Add under Canadian encampments that on May 21st, students attending Memorial University of Newfoundland and Labrador set up an encampment outside the Art's and Administration Building in St. John's, NL. source: https://theindependent.ca/news/munl-encampment-demands-divestment-of-funds-tied-to-israel-and-arms-manufacturers/ 142.177.6.234 (talk) 14:51, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
The statement “Pro-Palestinian and Jewish student protesters at Columbia have insisted the protests are not antisemitic” is not correct or misleading and not neutral at best. Columbia Jewish students have accused the protest of being antisemitic (https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/09/nyregion/columbia-university-jewish-students-letter.html#:~:text=A%20group%20of%20Jewish%20Columbia,cannot%20be%20separated%20from%20Israel.”)
Can someone please fix this? 71.179.129.209 (talk) 00:46, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
The statement “Protesters have also faced violence at the hands of pro-Israeli counter-protesters” would be more neutral if phrased as “Protesters also clashed with pro-Israeli counter-protesters.” 71.179.129.209 (talk) 03:36, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
Should there be a section on punishments? Not just arrests and expulsions, but students who are being forced to write apology letters? A leftist magazine, Jacobin, called it reeducation. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/17/nyregion/nyu-protests-apology-letters.html Collegemeltdown2 (talk) 22:09, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Personally, I hate seeing this, but it is relevant. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/ayatollah-tells-american-college-students-they-re-on-right-side-of-history/ar-BB1nko3r?ocid=BingNewsSerp Collegemeltdown2 (talk) 14:00, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
The article is written badly in my opinion and this is the direct outcome of hastily moving of the page from a highly notable title to a broader but less notable one. Most of the page is dedicated to the developments in the US, while there are ongoing protests occurring theses days across the globe in the university campuses. Every section of the article, including the lead, needs to be modified so it lends due weight to incidents outside the US.--Mhhossein talk 16:30, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
Most of this section is about Columbia University, and relates to it's campus occupation. Currently there is no mention of this in that article. This content would therefore be better suited there and summarised here with the addition of a further info link. As a reminder, content from Allegations of antisemitism section was moved to campus occupation#Allegations of antisemitism for the same reason. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 12:26, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
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