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I ask you to add a reference to this page.77.122.107.222 (talk) 21:21, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
MANF : it was egypt's capital starting from 29895 b.c. it was egypt's capiyal for 535 years later. and it was all destroyed, and nothing left from it but some stones ans some statues.
TIBA : it was egypt's capital starting from 2160 b.c. to 1660 b.c. it was egypt's capital for 500 year, the city was not completely destroyed, there is still some remains at luxur.
ALEXANDRIA : in the year 332 b.c. ALEXANDER the geat came to egypt and built Alexandria and made it egypt's capital and it was egypt's capital starting from 331 b.c. to 641 a.b. for almost 972 years. Alexandria was taken from the name Alexander
CAIRO : it is egypt's current capital
Black Named (talk) 22:56, 15 November 2008 (UTC)Black Named . . .
Maybe somebody should add something about this episode in Egyptian history from 1958-61: the United Arab Republic with Syria and then Yemen, i think. Or does it deserve its own page?70.22.145.237 (talk) 15:04, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
I'm trying to get a general list of the best links to use for each country. ODP (Open Directory Project) has all the major websites I think (including that business list that was just removed from External links). The others I think are particularly valuable are World Factbook, GovPubs, and the constantly-updated list of Chief of State and Cabinet Members. Then we have the wiki links such as Atlas, Travel and sisterlinks, of course the main official government sites, and the Perry-Castaneda map link. Anyone have any other favorites? In the case of Egypt, I think the links now listed under Other should be in Further Reading or moved to the History of Egypt article. Thoughts? Flatterworld (talk) 01:16, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
Can we please use info from sources on national military strengths, rather than op-eds in Israeli newspapers and public pronouncements by Israeli politicians? This is ridiculous. <eleland/talkedits> 12:30, 23 December 2008 (UTC) Very much seconded. The whole section is devoted to claims in Haertz and Jerusalem post!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.205.225.151 (talk) 19:06, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
Who said that English or French is a de facto language of Egypt , That's completely ignorant because ONLY SOME OF educated class know SOME English OR french not all of the country , and Especially french is almost not known between Egyptians or very rare I insist that the one who write that not even visited Egypt!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 3d vector (talk • contribs) 10:03, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
Another things: Egyptians don't drive on the right (that was a very very long time ago), now we drive on the left. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.154.146.92 (talk) 23:16, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
So, this article estimates the population to be 76 millions as of march 2009, while the Egyptians article estimates it as 83 million in 2008. Shouldn't wikipedia use a one reliable source in both articles or something? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.196.226.113 (talk) 05:17, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
Just wanted to make a brief clarification: What does "Semi-Presidant" mean? Egypt is a Republic run by an elected president.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.154.146.92 (talk) 23:16, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
" Egypt is considered[by whom?] to be the leading military power in the Middle East. " I removed this. If somebody wants to add it again: cite it. It was also a peacock sentence; so don't brag: show it (preferably by citing stuff, if you can). Thanks.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.171.76.45 (talk) 02:53, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
GIT-ER Dun.....In the Religion section of this article (Egypt, as at March 15,2008), states that Christians form 10-20% of the the population. This is a very wide range and is very inaccurate. The reason for this confusion is that the last population count done by the government which included a check for religion was in 1997 at which time christians were 6.5 million. Newer population counts don't include religion checks so the actual number is not known. The only Christian population count that is available is that provided by the church which says that Christians as of 2008 are 16 million which out of 80 million citizens, form 20%. Most people are confused and use old figures till today which gives them a much lower percentage. I hope someone corrects this figure by stating that there is no official religion count but the church according to their independent count claim that it 20% as of 2008.
Joe Cargo (talk) 18:32, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
I cannot see how this can be true. The last check concluded that there are 7 to 8% Christians in Egypt, and about 91% muslims. Hobapotter (talk) 18:14, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
This is my first ever edit, so I hope it is in the right place,
Daniel De Mol (talk) 14:17, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Egypt has just killed off 400,000 pigs due to fears about swine flu [1] !
--86.29.250.122 (talk) 12:12, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
The Egyptian health ministry said on Thursday "That the decision to cull quarter of a million pigs was not a measure against swine flu but a general health measure."
""--86.29.248.49 (talk) 04:02, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
--86.29.248.49 (talk) 04:07, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
This needs improving -- there is nothing about the French invasion of 1798 except the bare fact that it happened. I removed a completely illiterate couple of sentences that soemone had inserted here, but I'm not competent to insert the appropriate material -- could someone take this on? Liskeardziz (talk) 16:54, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
It says in the article that the Egyptians converted to Islam in 639 C.E. This is a mistake. The Arabs invaded Egypt in 640 C.E., but they didn't secure it until 642 C.E. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.105.128.36 (talk) 13:20, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
Is this true? I know Lebanon, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar, United Arab Emirates, Iran, and Oman have more developed economies than Egypt. The only other countries left are Syria, Sudan, Yemen, Iraq, Jordan..and possibly some of the South-west African states but I'm not sure if that is considered the ME. Comments? Wikifan12345 (talk) 00:56, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
[b]Egypt etymology[/b] Egyiptom szavunk eredete
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The English name "Egypt" came via the Latin word Aegyptus derived from the ancient Greek word Aígyptos (Αίγυπτος). The adjective aigýpti, aigýptios was borrowed into Coptic as gyptios, kyptios, and from there into Arabic as qubṭī, back formed into qubṭ, whence English Copt. The term is derived from Late Egyptian Hikuptah "Memphis", a corruption of the earlier Egyptian name Hat-ka-Ptah (ḥwt-k3-ptḥ), meaning "home of the ka (soul) of Ptah", the name of a temple to the god Ptah at Memphis.[7] Strabo provided a folk etymology according to which Aígyptos (Αίγυπτος ) had evolved as a compound from Aigaiou huptiōs (Aἰγαίου ὑπτίως), meaning "below the Aegean".
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The KAGIPT "Gift of River"...
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Old Norse gipt is "something given or received" - this is the source of the /g/ of modern English gift. Old English ȝift meant "payment for a wife", but we know it was replaced or influenced by the Old Norse word, because otherwise the modern word would be yift.
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Old Norse: gipt, g��0000">ift Paradigm: st. F. (i) Meaning (German): Gabe, Glµck Compare: gipta (1), gipta (2) Proto-Germanic: *gefti-, *geftiz Etymology: germ. *gefti-, *geftiz, st. F. (i), Gabe; s. idg. *ghabh-, V., fassen, nehmen, Pk 407 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.146.141.66 (talk) 07:23, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
link: http://www.touregypt.net/magazine/modernegyptculture.htm]ha kapta... The word COPT is an English word taken from the Arabic word Gibt or Gypt. The Arabs after their conquest of Egypt in 641 A.D. called the indigenous population of Egypt as Gypt from the Greek word Egyptos or Egypt. http://www.mideastweb.org/egypthistory.htm ancient Greek historian Herodotus wrote that Egypt is the gift of the Nile /Kagipt/ Under the Holy-sea: "This is from Wikipedia, "From ancient Greek (attested in Mycenean) Αίγυπτος, or Aígyptos, which according to Strabo, derived from "Αιγαίου υπτίως" (Aigaiou hyptios - "the land below the Aegean sea"). " The "gift" is "hiba" in arab, "doro" in greek, "nathan" in hebrew... The Arab invaders of 649 found well-established Coptic communities and referred to the conquered land as dar El Gibt, 'home of the Egyptians' —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.146.141.66 (talk) 12:01, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
Hello. Recently, an editor added a locator map to this article (with orange highlights and a horrid Mercator projection) which is of a style that is not only inconsistent with the locator maps in most country articles but has done so without any discussion or consensus. This map is disagreeable and not an improvement over the prior one; consequently, I have restored the prior long-standing map. I believe a renewed consensus needs to be demonstrated before the map is changed again. Thoughts? Bosonic dressing (talk) 02:31, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
The most famous egyptian was Mohamed Ahmed Hegazi —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.217.128.8 (talk) 14:30, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I made a new neat coat of arms and I changed it, but is seems to be small Mohamed Negm (talk) 22:55, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
Religon in Egypt : 94-90% Muslims .. Christians 6-10% .. so Where did 15% Christians come from? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.196.161.8 (talk) 20:32, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
wats up —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.74.75.35 (talk) 17:01, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
Hi
The modern Egyptian state is not truly a continuation of Ancient Egypt, nor is there any real connection between the civilization of Ancient Egypt and the current Arab Republic which assumed its mantle. When referencing the timeline of the modern state's history in the "established" section on the right hand side of the screen (in the reference box), Wikipedia places the approximate date of the founding of the First Dynasty, but should we not begin with a timeline of the Arab conquests of the Middle Ages? This would make more sense, as there is a continuity of events in this timeline which leads up to the contemporary unification of the Egyptian state as it exists today. Arab Egypt is not Ancient Egypt, as the peoples who existed in Ancient Egypt were not of Arab descent; the modern republic's history begins with the Arab conquest, not before. One would not interchange the Anatolian civilizations of the Bronze Age with modern Turkey, for instance.
I thought I should point this out.
Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.201.164.215 (talk) 07:12, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
Many of the facts in the infobox on the top right contradict the artilce.125.239.70.225 (talk) 22:56, 10 October 2009 (UTC) ==
--76.196.245.24 (talk) 22:13, 4 November 2009 (UTC)Whats up Guys--76.196.245.24 (talk) 22:13, 4 November 2009 (UTC) Im here to teach you about egypt
Go ahead. --Sherif9282 (talk) 17:16, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
Environment of Egypt doesn't exist. Perhaps someone can gather information and create this article. I contributed and created Climate of Egypt; please contribute and create some articles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ramomammah (talk • contribs) 13:28, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
The Nile River is in Egypt. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.22.200.32 (talk) 23:46, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
hi did you now eygpt was called the head of doom for being mystries legened has it that i f you touched a king without p ermission you hhhhave to di e for more informatoin go on gaia online and press regaster —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.114.99.154 (talk) 15:04, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
King Robert may just be the queen of Egypt. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.238.140.111 (talk) 04:31, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
hi gamal abd el nasser is isnt the first president of egypt —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.124.12.59 (talk) 07:23, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
In several (four?) places, "Nile River" is referenced. In British English, this would be said as "River Nile". I believe that in all places it would not be at all confusing to write simply "Nile", i.e. pipe it, which then makes the point moot. Does anyone agree or disagree?
I appreciate this article is written in American English, but there seems little point in writing something that, even momentarily, throws off readers from other parts of the English-speaking world, especially when the fix seems so simple. The only objection I could see would be that, at least at first use, it should be made clear that the Nile is a river, but although we have to be encyclopaedic I doubt many people would not know that; perhaps only readers who do not have English as their first language and for whom the word is not even close to Nile in their own, but even then, the same applies e.g. to Misr.
This Israeli site: [JP] has an article from an Israeli newspaper claiming that Egypt must fear Iran.Agre22 (talk) 22:08, 20 December 2009 (UTC)agre22
It needs more description on egypt
WIKIPEDIA IS A BAD SOURCE FOR INFORMATION! ANYONE CAN EDIT IT!! just wanted to show you :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 156.34.178.7 (talk) 22:49, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
It says in the demographics section that Egypt has the highest population of any country in the middle east. Does Pakistan count as the middle east? If so, Pakistan has twice the population of Egypt. Hicksy 1993 (talk) 00:51, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for this section, it is bizarre really as I lived in Cairo a couple of years but it only just occurred to me that I did not know how the word "Egypt" came to be. Two points:
Please don't take this as at all racist, I have several Romany friends, I am just interested in the etymology.
Best wishes Si Trew (talk) 12:59, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
I also wonder what the "t3" is doing there. And I lost the train of thought towards the end, so still don't understand how "Egypt" came to be, beyond the Greek root. Maybe someone can improve that? —Długosz (talk) 20:26, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
egyptians is a nationality not a a race..so we cant say 99% egytians,0.9% Nubians,... Nubians is also egyptians, and there is nothing called egyptain race but there is alot of races in egypt.(82.201.228.84 (talk) 00:06, 21 February 2010 (UTC)).
Hotels in Egypt [] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kres86 (talk • contribs) 20:37, 23 February 2010 (UTC) =D
Quoting from the history section of the article, " ...after the 15th century, the threat of military European Crusaders and Central Asian Mongols set the Egpytian system into decline...". Surely this isn't correct? The last crusader action against Egypt's Mamelukes was defeated in 1250 at the Battle of Fariskur. So any 15th Century decline must have other causes - most notably (as the article points out) the effects of the Black Death and subsequently decline under the Ottomans. Is the article trying to point the finger of Islam's late-medieaval decline at the Crusades? If so, it is incorrect. 86.128.225.29 (talk) 10:42, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
The "Arab / Ottoman Occupation" heading really needs to be changed. Egypt became part of the Arabic/Islamic world in 639, and remains so until this day. Claiming it was an occupation is just ludicrous, and if so, it'd have to be the longest occupation in history.
Maps in the Egypt article show Bir Tawil, but not the Hala'ib triangle along the Sudanese border as part of Egypt, both Egypt and Sudan claim Hala'ib but neither claim Bir Tawil
Is there a reason for this?
Could this be seen as wikipedia supporting Sudan's claims? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.202.98.220 (talk) 10:16, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
I would like to know the reasons of this article's delisting from the good articles criteria. In addition, it would be really helpful to know what is needed to make this article a featured one. It would be great if suggestions and criticisms are mentioned in order to enhance this article's quality. --Mohamed 08:45, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
To anyone having trouble viewing the Unicode Hieroglyph Characters: You must download and install the font "Aegyptus" and view the page in either Firefox or Internet Explorer. Support in the Opera browser is not good at the moment. Wikilackey (talk) 20:49, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
From the info box: "Semi-presidential republic under Emergency Law (Law No. 162 of 1958)[1] since 1967, except for an 18-month break in 1980." How does an 18-month break fit into one year? --92.230.100.174 (talk) 10:55, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
In the section on climate, the famous phrase The Gift of the Nile is a paraphrase of the Greek historian Herodotus, who called Egypt "the gift of the river". The entire sentence reads as follows: “For even though a man has not before been told it he can see at once, if he has sense, that the Egypt to which the Greeks sail is land acquired by the Egyptians and a gift of the river.” —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.73.31.50 (talk) 18:10, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
I would like to include the following line in the religion section please:
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ThanksQuestionsasker (talk) 10:43, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
Mohamed Hassanien Heykal and Anwar el Sadat were not shia muslims...this is speculation from the editor please remove it or allow me to challenge its authenticity —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.79.99.69 (talk) 10:31, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
Important figures in the current Egyptian society seem to have been Shia in their faith, but practicing taqiyya or religious dissimulation for their own protection and ambitions. These include president Anwar el-Sadat and former editor of the Al Ahram newspaper, Mohammad Hassanein Heykal, among others. There is no possibility to prove or disprove such claims, given the currently charged, anti-Shia atmosphere in that country.
Why are 25 citations necessary for the single sentence "There is a large minority of Christians in Egypt, who make up around 10% of the population."? Is this not a little superfluous? --Ahuja91 (talk) 19:33, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
Egypt is actually almost twice the size of Central America. It is more comparible in size to Bolivia or Colombia, a bit smaller. Or slightly larger than Venezuela.
Can someone fix that? :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.251.187.104 (talk) 13:14, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
i dont understand why their needs to be over 5 names for the word Egypt, one in Coptic, another in Ancient Egyptian, another in Egyptian Arabic, another in Standard Arabic, another in Arabic, but with a differant font, (same font used for Egyptian Arabic Dialect)... and ofcourse the ENglish one.... i dont think that Ancient Egyptian and Egyptian Arabic should be included in the first part, simply because Ancient Egyptian is mentioned furthur on in the article, and because the Egyptian Arabic is Identical to the Arabic... coptic is neccessary tho, because it describes a large portion of Egyptians, and Arabic, well, because it's the countries language... what do you guys think?? ill be removing the Egyptian Arabic font for Egypt in Standard Arabic... because im guessing it was done as a mistake to begin with.. Arab League User (talk) 07:05, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
It's clear that this section is not neutral. It contradicts all the lines in the same page that come beforehand, and it has also been written without giving any references. So, it's not only a non-neutral issue, but also an invalid argument that contradicts itself, as well as contradicting the other contents (which has been given along with their respective references) in the page.
I guess it's intended to say that the "Shia Minority" and Christians need more rights in Egypt (((than Muslims majority themselves have!))), although the Muslim majority call them: "The lucky minority"... they don't live like minority at all, although they didn't even reached that 10% written in this page!
For example, what country on earth (other than Egypt) gives its citizens a "holy"-day (because the "minority" in such country has some vacation), where all governmental services and schools are closed in such holyday? (e.g. 7th-Jan in each year is a vacation in Egypt for all Egyptians, and, on the other hand, the Christian vacations are celebrated only by Christians and not by the majority, although Christians take vacations with the majority as well).
As an Egyptian who has been born, raised and lived for 34 years in Egypt, I've NEVER met a "Shia" in the streets or in the civil communities... I've NEVER talked to one of them, although I've many, many connections (as a lecturer in 2 universities and a member in other social communities). "Shia" don't declare themselves easily, and this is not because they don't practice their rights, but because (many of them) don't dare to face "normal" Muslims in Egypt and avoid any kind of logical debates and escape from handling such logical talks; even in media; especially that (many of them) don't satisfy some conditions of being Muslims in the first place! [Al-Azhar itself has many references proving the last statement].
The existence of "Shia" might be increased in Egypt just as a result of Wikipedia allowing such non-authenticated texts be written without greater review (I don't want to say that it's intended!)
Another weak point here is that, it's been mentioned, as an example, that: ["Shia" students are not admitted into the al-Azhar University in Cairo.], which is a very non-logical issue/request to talk about. It seems like some Muslims are asking the Church to be enrolled as Priests! If "Shia"'s request can be considered as one of their "rights" it should also be possible for Christians to ask to be admitted in Al-Azhar university as well, and, consequently, be "Muslim Imams in Masjids/Mosques" without being Muslims... which is a clear contradiction that proves it's not one of the "Shia"'s right to be admitted into Al-Azhar... or at least, it can't be considered as a "minority-resistance" issue. [Ahmed Ashry(A. Ashry (talk) 21:26, 29 September 2010 (UTC))]
This section does not adhere to a neutral point of view and gives no references. --Voiceofplanet (talk) 22:22, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
This may be a good start. http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2006/817/sc1.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.52.80.24 (talk) 07:43, 29 June 2010 (UTC) Who the Fuck wrote this section???? "It is sad . . . " sounds to me like editorializing rather than unbiased reporting of facts which is the mission statement of an encyclopedia. Until Wiki roots out lock, stock, and barrel the anti-Muslim bias that seems to pervade it, it can NEVER be equal to a reputable encyclopedia! Hear That, MR. WALES??????? Fuck all Anti-Muslims.WittyMan1986 (talk) 05:02, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
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Can someone please tidy the references up here (it's getting unreadable & contains duplicates) :
There is a large minority of Christians in Egypt, who make up around 10% of the population.[85][97][98][99][100][101][102][103][104][105][87][88][89][90][91][92][93][100][101][106][107][108][109][110][111]
That, or unlock the article ;-)
Immaterial.uk (talk) 16:23, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
I think there should be a section for coptic persecution which is an important part of Egypt's current problems. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kimokono1990 (talk • contribs) 22:14, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
I agree. The article lacks any mention of this very important subject.Teriyaki1 (talk) 22:22, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
According to the recent news of Egypt, there are a lot of problems caused by the christian side in Egypt in which the main church is involved. You have to refer to the stories of "Wafaa Kostantine", "Kamilia Shehata" .. who converted to Islam and then have been punished by the main church etc. I think it is very important to refer to those stories. Also, I think you have to refer to the great authority of money which is owned by few christians in Egypt, what about Sawiras family of business men. Moreover, I think that the part about "coptic persecution" subject to too much exaggeration, please review and refer to authenticated cases where for example building new churchs or renewing old ones was prevented, please give authenticated cases with dates unless the overall neutrality of the document is suspected. In addition, why you did not provide any estimated number of the rate of conversion to Islam and Christianity among Egyptians. What about the external funding sources of christian Egyptians, why nothing is mentioned about that?? 137.226.36.84 (talk) 11:07, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
There is no such thing as persecution of Copts, it has been some hard few situations which was condemned by both Muslims and Christians and i have to mention that the Muslim victims of terrorists in Egypt are way more than Christians
The radical Muslims who attacked Copts are treated by both the Government and people as terrorists whose targets include primarily other Muslims and then Copts. Far from Mr. Rosenthal's charges against Egypt, the Government has been locked in a fight to the finish against the terrorists. The terrorists have been insulated and rendered largely ineffective, save for acts of desperation like the recent attacks on Copts and Muslims. </http://www.nytimes.com/1997/05/07/opinion/l-egypt-condemns-persecution-of-its-copts-970085.html>
and one other thing is that the Egyptian Christians are about 6% of the whole Egyptian community and they possess more than 30% of the Egyptian fortune. In the arab region there has been over ten business men in the Forbes richest men of the world, four of them are Egyptians and these four are Christians ,, after all that is it true that Copts are persecuted in Egypt? </http://www.forbes.com/lists/2010/10/billionaires-2010_The-Worlds-Billionaires_CountryOfCitizen_6.html> —Preceding unsigned comment added by Asdeer (talk • contribs) 10:42, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
The Sharqia governorate is in lower Egypt,not in upper Egypt. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.228.208.111 (talk) 17:30, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
السلام اليڭم
Egypt is the 2nd strongest military power behind Israel in the middle east.. ACCORDING TO ISRAEL.
Is there no FACT about it? Has nobody got numbers on a paper, telling you the real thing?
I for one do not trust Jerusalem Post alone. The whole article is about the speculation of Israeli officials, and therefore it's not relevant to the article. It's about Egypt, and Egypt's military. Not Israel's view on Egypt and Egypt's military. --91.156.224.203 (talk) 21:06, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
can someone post more about the climate thanx (Crazy cool cid (talk) 18:15, 23 November 2010 (UTC)). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Crazy cool cid (talk • contribs) 18:17, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
In addition, Coptic girls are victims of abduction and forced Islamization by Islamic fundamentalist groups. The Egyptian government is very passive when it comes to human rights of Copts. Some local government officials actually share in these human rights violations against Copts.
A verbatim copy of the text that should replace it:
A great number of Coptic Christians in Egypt embrace Islam on a yearly basis at no compulsion for example Kamilia Shehata (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamilia_Shehata), Wafaa Constantine who was handed over to the church by the Egyptian government and till now she never appeared (http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2004/721/eg7.htm)
The religion of Islam on a regular basis permits forcing others, especially Coptic Christians,to embrace it under any circumstances and the Glorious Qur'an confirms it. Coptic Christians suffer persecution at multiple levels in Egypt. At the state level, Copts suffer organized persecution. They are victims of discriminatory religious laws, anti-Christian judges, and discrimination by state police. Anti-Christian laws include the law governing churches. This requires Presidential permission to build a church, and the governor’s permission to renovate one. Other laws also discriminate against Copts. Anti-Christian judges "legislate from the bench". A good example is the courts' refusal to give Egyptians who convert to Christianity identity cards that display their new religion. Converting to Islam does not even require going to court.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.aina.org/news/20090701003916.htm |title=The persecution of Coptic Christians continues |publisher=The Assyrian International News agency}}</ref>
Copts are denied equal opportunities in recruitment and promotion. Very few are appointed to key positions in the Government or are candidates for parliament. Enrolment of Copts in police academies and military schools is restricted, and very few are teachers and professors.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.arabwestreport.info/?q=node/18302 |title=Discrimination against copts |publisher=Arab West Report}}</ref>
Copts have been victims of violence, especially since the 1970s. Since President Mubarak took office 1,500 violent attacks against Copts killed or injured thousands. In most of these attacks, the perpetrators did not face justice. The most significant recent attack was in Elkosheh in 2000 which killed 20. All the assailants were set free.[citation needed]
The violent attacks in El-Minya governorate in the 1990s forced thousands to flee to bigger cities in Egypt or to immigrate; a form of unrecognized ethnic cleansing.[citation needed]
Coptic girls are victims of abduction and forced Islamization by Islamic fundamentalist groups. The Egyptian government is very passive when it comes to human rights of Copts. Some local government officials actually share in these human rights violations against Copts.[citation needed] }}
The section is controversial, doesn't contain any reliable sources and is not a main topic of Egypt to have its own section.--Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 00:12, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
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Sorry for being so long again, but there are just too many flaws with this section. --BomBom (talk) 23:35, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
Issues with sources:
In addition to the above issues, this is the top level article for the country Egypt. There is a sub-article Religion in Egypt and that even has a sub-article Freedom of religion in Egypt. To go in to such detail on these events in an aritcle that covers thousands and thousands of years is the very definition of undue weight. nableezy - 20:25, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
Funny you mentioned Boutros Boutros Ghali. You may or may not know that Boutros Boutros Ghali served as Egypt's acting foreign minister (NOT foreign minister) twice under President Anwar Sadat (1977 and 1978 - 1979). This is in spite of the fact that he was well qualified to be a UN secretary, but of course this appointment of Ghali as an only acting foreign minister is a reflection of the Egyptian government's policy of systematically eliminating Copts from all influential governmental positions. You may also not know that while the foreign minister is required to attend meetings of the Highest Political Committee, which basically determines the politics of the country regarding various issues including politics towards the Christian minority, the acting is NOT allowed to attend those meetings. Understandably, with governmental policies aimed at making of Copts 2nd class citizens, it makes perfect sense to have Ghali appointed as just an acting foreign minister. --λⲁⲛτερⲛιξ[talk] 23:42, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
And yet another credible source in the news today: CNN! The paragraph on Egypt reads In Egypt, where Christians constitute 10% of the population, Christian girls are being kidnapped by shadowy Muslim groups and lured into Muslim marriages, with the state looking the other way. Christians in Egypt have no problem converting to Islam, but if Muslims want to convert to Christianity, they are refused permission to register as Christians on their ID cards, where religion must be stated. Riots are common, and Egyptian Christians live in fear for their lives. I am restoring the paragraphs with addition of new references in light of my and Mbz1's contributions. If you don't like some of the sources, you are more than welcome to refer to RSN. --λⲁⲛτερⲛιξ[talk] 23:42, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
Lanternix, you have failed to address the issues raised here and have reinserted unreliable sources and non-neutral language, as well as completely ignoring the requirements of WP:WEIGHT. I am reverting the addition of this material once again and request that instead of seeking to force the material in over the policy based objections of several editors that you follow the procedures laid out at WP:DR. nableezy - 20:55, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
I cannot believe that this article still says that Copts "usually live in fear for their lives", though thankfully this is now an attributed statement. This is an absurd claim to include in the article. There is certainly discrimination, even intolerance, directed towards Copts, but the statement in the article now needs more than an op-ed backing it up. I'll rework what material is salvageable, but I will be removing the more asinine statements our article makes, especially those sourced to such beacons of truth-telling as AINA. nableezy - 23:01, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
There are differences between the map on this page and the ones in the pages of the separate governorates. Would someone please make the corrections? (I don't know how to fix maps)
The opening section states Egypt flourishes due to political stability. Due to the nature of the massive protests against the government right now, I suggest this be taken off until a conclusion is reached concerning the previously mentioned protests. Gaandolf (talk) 20:46, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
WP:RECENTISM. We can just state that Egypt has a record of flourishing due to political stability over the past 20 years or so. Stability, of course, due to Mubarak's keeping the population under the whip. We shouldn't make major changes to the article while these riots are ongoing. --dab (𒁳) 21:31, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
As the presdient just dmissed the entire goverment, shouldn't it's goverment type be listed as none right now? 69.132.79.61 (talk) 23:48, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
No it shouldn't. This is an encyclopedia article, not a news ticker. What it should emphasize, however, is that this "presidental republic" has been under a state of emergency for 40 years. This means that it is a republic only in theory, because the perpetual "emergency" conveniently allowed the regime to act as it pleased anyway. --dab (𒁳) 09:56, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
In the current riots section there is this sentence "as well as linking the local police with Israel." but there are no references or any details on what kind of connections with Israel. It should be added that this is done probably in order to incite the crowd against the police and the authorities, since there is not any known connection between the police that fight the riot and Israel, if there is one, a reference is needed otherwise it is not serious. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Megashock (talk • contribs) 22:24, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
The revolt led Great Britain to issue a unilateral declaration of Egypt's independence on February 22, 1922.[30]
Great Britain is an island not a country. It is the name of the island which contains England Scotland and Wales.
The correct term is either informally just 'Britain' or formally the United Kingdom. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.12.104.44 (talk) 17:57, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
I readded this:
Don't remove it without approval by a large number. It's helpful to casual viewers who are looking for info on the revolution. Merrill Stubing (talk) 23:02, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Yes, yes. But I doubt that the Egypt#2011_protests section is really helpful in this article. It cannot be more than a poor ad hoc summary that needs to be updated every couple of hours. It is enough to just link to the main 2011 Egyptian protests article for now. We can try to incorporate a summary once the situation settles down and the article becomes stable. --dab (𒁳) 14:01, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
The section "Politics" contains the sentence "(See link at top of page)." I propose that the sentence be replaced with a link; specifically, that the sentence be removed and the phrase "the civil unrest of January 2011", in the previous sentence, be made into a link to the article 2011 Egyptian protests. --Tanner Swett (talk) 03:02, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
{{Edit protected}}
For the first citation needed tags on the politics section (sorry this is all out of order):
(no-wiki'd for copy and paste)
<ref name=fidh>{{cite web|last=The Emergency Law in Egypt|url=http://www.fidh.org/THE-EMERGENCY-LAW-IN-EGYPT|work=International Federation for Human Rights|accessdate=2 February 2011}}</ref>
For the last cite needed tag in the politics section:
<ref name=factbook>{{cite web|title=Egypt|url=https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/eg.html|work=CIA- The World Factbook|accessdate=2 February 2011}}</ref>
Also for the History#Kingdom cite needed:
<ref name=factbook-history>{{cite web|title=Egypt|url=https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/eg.html|work=CIA- The World Factbook|accessdate=2 February 2011|quote= Partially independent from the UK in 1922, Egypt acquired full sovereignty with the overthrow of the British-backed monarchy in 1952.}}</ref>
For the first economy cite-needed:
<ref name=IMF>{{cite web|last=Enders|first=Klaus|title=Egypt: Reforms Trigger Economic Growth|url=http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/survey/so/2008/car021308a.htm|work=Internation Monetary Fund|accessdate=2 February 2011|quote=In its most recent review of Egypt's economy, the IMF says the expansion has broadened from energy, construction, and telecommunications to such labor-intensive sectors as agriculture and manufacturing.}}</ref>
That should cover all of them. TheFSAviator ( T • C ) 01:34, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
I don't understand why this article has been fully protected. Maybe semi-protection would do better. There is a lot of editing necessary that registered Users want to make. Please downgrade full to semi-protection. Thanks --Camilo Sanchez (talk) 14:05, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
I'm not finding any information on Egypt's government. Government of Egypt redirects to Politics of Egypt, which doesn't tell anything about the various ministries, for example. I don't know enough to contribute anything useful, but it ought to be here somewhere. --Dan Wylie-Sears 2 (talk) 14:26, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
It would be helpful if one of those boxes were placed up top regarding characters without uniform support. Some of the Linear B and Egyptian scripts don't render on my Vista/Google Chrome machine. 68.45.210.104 (talk) 02:53, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
You would need to download the respective fonts and install them; then it should work. --Krawunsel (talk) 15:08, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
I know that they would work, I'm asking for an infobox to be placed up top regarding the text as is common practice with most Wikipedia articles. 68.45.210.104 (talk) 04:45, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
The third paragraph uses unicaode to display egyptian hiroglyphs, which is unlikely to be supported by most users and so is a bad idea. It may be a better idea to simply use pictures as with other glyphs on wikipedia - I believe the following is correct:
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.30.153.174 (talk) 17:53, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
Should he still be listed as the president? Crasshopper (talk) 05:04, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
Re the Egypt#Republic section, what type of Republic did Egypt have (or was it supposed to have)? A presidential, semi-presidential, or a parlimentary republic? Do we have a source on this from anywhere? Banaticus (talk) 23:46, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
This page calls the recent change in Egypt's government a "revolution", as does the page dedicated to this event. While many in the newsmedia are using the same word, I believe that there is a good case to be made that what has happened is not a revolution (see Stratfor's article). What has happened in Egypt is the following: protests by a segment of the population (certainly not a majority), followed by removal of the president and assumption of control of the government by the military. Using the term "revolution" implies a change in the group of people who govern the country, but this has not happened: the military has been in control of Egypt since the 1950s, just not explicitly. Besides, when one faction in a government removes another from power, the term usually applied is "coup". I believe that using the term "revolution" assumes the interpretation that a popular protest movement has taken control of the government, and this is not the case.
Dshearer2 (talk) 07:56, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
Currently the "Establishment" section of the side panel lists several important events in the establishment of Egypt's government(s). I request that a new item be added at the end:
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