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What is the source for the information that NASCAR is second to the NFL in television ratings? The World Series and Olympics both have significantly higher ratings than any NASCAR race.
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According to this from Fox Sports: http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/story/3410732 The highest rating ever for a NASCAR race was a 10.9. Contrast that to this from ESPN: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs2005/news/story?id=2206044 The lowest rating ever for a World Series was an 11.1. If the highest-rated Daytona 500 gets worse ratings than the lowest-rated World Series, how can anyone say NASCAR is the second-most-popular sport by TV ratings?
It should be added that F-1 is dominant in an international perspective....the no. 1 racing sport worldwide is F-1.
I have some questions about the veracity of Nascar's historical connection with bootlegging. Someone please confirm and provide sources. Jinnentonik 22:28, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
The recent biography of early NASCAR driver Curtis Turner, Full Throttle, examines the bootlegging connection in detail. Turner nearly served time for bootlegging, himself.SullyAg 22:55, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
I hesitate to make any major changes to this page since I'm still pretty newb-y, but it just seems to me like a lot of the information in this article should be in Nextel Cup or Nextel Cup Series -- both of which currently redirect to NASCAR Championship which is just a list of the past winners. It doesn't make any sense to me that the Busch Series and the Craftsman Truck Series have their own articles and the Nextel Cup Series doesn't. If I had my way, NASCAR would be a (somewhat briefer) article explaining how it basically just makes the rules for and operates a bunch of series and it could link to Stock car racing and the articles on the other series. (Lists of the other series they operate are at http://www.nascartouring.com/ and http://www.weeklyracingseries.com/. There may be others, I haven't looked too hard yet.) I'd like to hear other people's opinions though. Any objections or ideas for improvements? Recury 22:51, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)
This article should be marked for clean up. I think the whole thing should be rewritten with a format similar to the FIA article.Mustang6172 04:50, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
The new Safety section credits howstuffworks, but none of the lines seem to be pulled verbatim. What should we do? --Golbez 04:43, Apr 22, 2005 (UTC)
I'm not sure it's necessary or accurate to compare relative sizes of NASCAR and NFL venues, nor the number of spectators each can hold. Kurohone 02:23, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
1. eye-hand coordination 2. eye-foot coordination 3. ever seen the drivers drinking gatorade or laid out getting IV's after a 500 mile race in 90 degree weather?
There is no disccusion here. It is common knowledge that it is considered a sport as all auto racing is (F1, CART, etc). 69.134.50.153 6 July 2005 01:40 (UTC)
I think, though, that feel ambivalent about auto racing's status as a sport. If you played video games in 90° weather, wouldn't you feel similar effects?Wiki Wikardo 01:42, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
This isn't the place to argue it. A seperate wiki can be made over the debate, but this article is talking about the sport and company, not whether it is a sport or not. I suggest another wiki is made for that debate. KStingily 22:50, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
Wiki Wikardo, when someone is sitting in front of their computer playing a game do they feel the same G-Loads and other forces inflicted upon the body from going into turns, accelerating, and decelerating? Do they have the mental stress brought on by knowing they're in a potentially deadly situation? Or do they know that they're sitting in front of a computer playing a game? Ryan Gardner 10:43, September 9, 2005 (UTC) Nascar is a sport and a damn good one at that ill say no more except nascar is just as mental as it is physical drivers are sweating after races and it is much harder on the driver than any other sport.
There is a lot of team work as well. There is more than just a driver and a car. The pit crew has to change four tires, put 10 gallons of fuel in the gas tank, clean the front grill, and sometimes make chasis adjustments in less than 15 seconds. You can't exactly feel the same stress of a pit stop in a video game. I do think 500 miles in a circle in 90 degrees without air conditioning is very stressful on the body. I can't even drive 300 miles to Atlanta with out stoping a few times to eat or use the restroom, and that is with air conditioning and satelite radio.
Interesting to note: no "criticism" section on Formula One wiki. Nor is there one on the world rally championship wiki. Each of these must have a comparable fan base. WRC even has a notorious reputation for crazy fan, with many events involving injury to such fan. Just an intersting point to note.--Mlprater 23:08, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
The "Criticism" section is (mostly) cited and, IMHO, does a fair job of presenting all sides of the debate in all its subsections. I should know; I've edited a great deal of it. If you have specific problems with the way it's presented, by all means, bring them up here, but as it stands now, I do not think the section represents a one-sided attack on NASCAR. The fact that WRC or F1 do not (as of now) have criticism sections is irrelevant. Certainly there are critics of both of those series, and one would be justified in adding similar sections to those pages. Also, the criticism section here reflects, to use your terms, both "internal" and "external" criticism; as examples, note the sections on Buschwackers and fuel consumption. Simishag 03:13, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
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